Virgin recruiting soon...
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Same. "Thank you for your patience regarding your recent application to Virgin Atlantic. Having had the opportunity to review our commercial programme for the coming months, there is currently no specific further requirement for Boeing type-rated candidates so we will be putting our interviews on hold for the time being."
Received the same email. They are a funny company. Applied initially in 2015. Never heard if my application was even successful or not, only heard a good few months after that they no longer need anyone. Then in Sept last year I receive one saying please update my details and resubmit- and then today same email as above- no one needed. I presume they'd have given a PFO if my application was of no use, but still.
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I know there's guys in their hold pool that never got PFO's yet they offered jobs to newly interviewed FO's ahead of them. Doesn't sound very organized. If somebody takes the trouble to go all the way through a selection process you'd think they at least deserve an 'I'm sorry we've changed our minds' email.
It's very obvious what they do. Ideally they want type rated people, but they of course don't want to be 'short' of crew, so I guess they will put people through a type rating if they have to. With that in mind they don't stop NTR applying, but keep them on the back burner unless they are absolutely necessary. What I don't understand is, how these few NTR people mentioned above have been offered a job, without the rest of us either being told you didn't pass the application stage or having had a 'shot' at the interview for the job ourselves.
In any other walk of life, a job is advertised and everyone who applies gets a yes come to interview or no thanks. You never get a "we've got what we need now, but are holding your application on file!"
In any other walk of life, a job is advertised and everyone who applies gets a yes come to interview or no thanks. You never get a "we've got what we need now, but are holding your application on file!"
I had a UK licence, now on an Irish. It takes a month or so to convert back. If they won't look at someone who can convert to a UK licence while serving their notice period, then they should at least have the decency to issue a PFO.
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Personally I think cadet schemes are great, everyone needs a start somewhere. Virgin aren't exclusively hiring cadets either, lots of experienced guys being taken on. The problem is you could be a UK citizen working for a European airline and be type rated on A330, B787 or B747 and not get a look in. Meanwhile a non U.K. EU citizen flying for a U.K. Airline on 320's or 737's is fair game according to VS recruitment team. Something not right there.....
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I think the cadet scheme is an insult to anyone that had aspirations to work for Virgin, there never has been and there never will be a need for it. But if your happy to miss out on a job in favour of of a guy with zero flying experience then that's up to you . Is it that hard to get a UK issued licence and why would you have a non U.K. Issued one if you are a British citizen?
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They take on in the region of 10 cadets a year vs. many multiples that number of direct entry experienced candidates. Standard practice at most grown up airlines to take on cadets so don't see the issue.
My employer required me to convert from U.K. licence to their state of issue to enable company TRE's to sign off my licence at recurrent checks. Again standard practice at most airlines. I converted prior to joining. VS require you to present yourself at interview with UK licence which is pretty much impossible if you're working for a non U.K. airline.
My employer required me to convert from U.K. licence to their state of issue to enable company TRE's to sign off my licence at recurrent checks. Again standard practice at most airlines. I converted prior to joining. VS require you to present yourself at interview with UK licence which is pretty much impossible if you're working for a non U.K. airline.
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Surely any EASA rated TRE could sign a licence that seems crazy! I am not entirely sure it is common practice, I have worked for European Airlines and never been asked to change my UK ATPL, my LPCs were also signed off by non UK TREs. Any way I agree the system seems crazy, could you get a U.K. Licence as well as your Irish one?
I am also not that convinced that VS will be recruiting "significantly" more than 10 DEPs this year but I could be wrong. To me Virgin used to be an aspirational airline somewhere you would dream of working, somewhere where all those years of flying and all those thousands of hours actually meant something an Airline that actively wanted and sort experienced pilots. It just saddens me that it's not the case anymore, you can now just start your career right at the top. It basically says to me that Virgin value experience in the same way every other airline does, an unwanted expense.
Anyway best of luck I hope you get in at some point.
I am also not that convinced that VS will be recruiting "significantly" more than 10 DEPs this year but I could be wrong. To me Virgin used to be an aspirational airline somewhere you would dream of working, somewhere where all those years of flying and all those thousands of hours actually meant something an Airline that actively wanted and sort experienced pilots. It just saddens me that it's not the case anymore, you can now just start your career right at the top. It basically says to me that Virgin value experience in the same way every other airline does, an unwanted expense.
Anyway best of luck I hope you get in at some point.
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I am also not that convinced that VS will be recruiting "significantly" more than 10 DEPs this year but I could be wrong.
People will no doubt argue but frankly I think you'd be hard pushed to find a better scheduled airline job in the U.K.
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You cannot hold more than one EASA licence of a particular category, so no you cannot get a U.K. ATPL and IAA ATPL. It's an administrative nightmare to keep all TREs briefed on all the different licensing authority requirements and with an airline like Ryanair with 87 bases across Europe, if you allow 1 country to keep their SOLI then why not the others?