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Old 22nd Dec 2016, 19:23   #1081 (permalink)
 
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Quite surprised to see BA guys heading over to V/S. just shows how sort after the company is.

I would imagine that rules out the rest of the 1000+ people that applied.
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Old 22nd Dec 2016, 21:05   #1082 (permalink)
 
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A few A320 rated guys got a job offer over the last couple of days too
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 18:00   #1083 (permalink)
 
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I know a guy who's joining shortly as a NTR 747 FO so it is possible
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 14:24   #1084 (permalink)
 
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Meester Proach, what's your friends back ground?

Anyone Else heard anything for non rated Boeing?
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 23:03   #1085 (permalink)
 
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Still not heard anything at all from them. B777 rated (6500 total and 1500 on the 777).
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 15:58   #1086 (permalink)
 
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I just got an email saying ntr people for Boeing are not needed for now due to the commercial programming.
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 16:12   #1087 (permalink)


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Same. "Thank you for your patience regarding your recent application to Virgin Atlantic. Having had the opportunity to review our commercial programme for the coming months, there is currently no specific further requirement for Boeing type-rated candidates so we will be putting our interviews on hold for the time being."
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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 17:37   #1088 (permalink)
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Received the same email. They are a funny company. Applied initially in 2015. Never heard if my application was even successful or not, only heard a good few months after that they no longer need anyone. Then in Sept last year I receive one saying please update my details and resubmit- and then today same email as above- no one needed. I presume they'd have given a PFO if my application was of no use, but still.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 00:27   #1089 (permalink)
 
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I know there's guys in their hold pool that never got PFO's yet they offered jobs to newly interviewed FO's ahead of them. Doesn't sound very organized. If somebody takes the trouble to go all the way through a selection process you'd think they at least deserve an 'I'm sorry we've changed our minds' email.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 05:38   #1090 (permalink)
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It's very obvious what they do. Ideally they want type rated people, but they of course don't want to be 'short' of crew, so I guess they will put people through a type rating if they have to. With that in mind they don't stop NTR applying, but keep them on the back burner unless they are absolutely necessary. What I don't understand is, how these few NTR people mentioned above have been offered a job, without the rest of us either being told you didn't pass the application stage or having had a 'shot' at the interview for the job ourselves.

In any other walk of life, a job is advertised and everyone who applies gets a yes come to interview or no thanks. You never get a "we've got what we need now, but are holding your application on file!"
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 12:45   #1091 (permalink)
 
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Unless you have a UK issued EASA licence, they won't look at you.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 17:56   #1092 (permalink)
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I had a UK licence, now on an Irish. It takes a month or so to convert back. If they won't look at someone who can convert to a UK licence while serving their notice period, then they should at least have the decency to issue a PFO.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 18:49   #1093 (permalink)
 
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Some Type Rated A330 people joining imminently. (Ex RAF Voyager?)
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 19:06   #1094 (permalink)
 
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VJW...agreed. IMO it's farcical they won't consider non U.K. EASA type rated candidates.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 19:37   #1095 (permalink)
 
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It's farcical they are taking on cadets whilst experience guys are getting rejected in their thousands, what a wonderful industry!!
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 19:49   #1096 (permalink)
 
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Personally I think cadet schemes are great, everyone needs a start somewhere. Virgin aren't exclusively hiring cadets either, lots of experienced guys being taken on. The problem is you could be a UK citizen working for a European airline and be type rated on A330, B787 or B747 and not get a look in. Meanwhile a non U.K. EU citizen flying for a U.K. Airline on 320's or 737's is fair game according to VS recruitment team. Something not right there.....
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 20:46   #1097 (permalink)
 
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I think the cadet scheme is an insult to anyone that had aspirations to work for Virgin, there never has been and there never will be a need for it. But if your happy to miss out on a job in favour of of a guy with zero flying experience then that's up to you . Is it that hard to get a UK issued licence and why would you have a non U.K. Issued one if you are a British citizen?
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 20:59   #1098 (permalink)
 
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They take on in the region of 10 cadets a year vs. many multiples that number of direct entry experienced candidates. Standard practice at most grown up airlines to take on cadets so don't see the issue.

My employer required me to convert from U.K. licence to their state of issue to enable company TRE's to sign off my licence at recurrent checks. Again standard practice at most airlines. I converted prior to joining. VS require you to present yourself at interview with UK licence which is pretty much impossible if you're working for a non U.K. airline.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 21:26   #1099 (permalink)
 
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Surely any EASA rated TRE could sign a licence that seems crazy! I am not entirely sure it is common practice, I have worked for European Airlines and never been asked to change my UK ATPL, my LPCs were also signed off by non UK TREs. Any way I agree the system seems crazy, could you get a U.K. Licence as well as your Irish one?

I am also not that convinced that VS will be recruiting "significantly" more than 10 DEPs this year but I could be wrong. To me Virgin used to be an aspirational airline somewhere you would dream of working, somewhere where all those years of flying and all those thousands of hours actually meant something an Airline that actively wanted and sort experienced pilots. It just saddens me that it's not the case anymore, you can now just start your career right at the top. It basically says to me that Virgin value experience in the same way every other airline does, an unwanted expense.

Anyway best of luck I hope you get in at some point.
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Old 25th Jan 2017, 04:30   #1100 (permalink)

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I am also not that convinced that VS will be recruiting "significantly" more than 10 DEPs this year but I could be wrong.
VS recruited just shy of 50 DEPs on this last round. Virgin remains a very good place to work. Yes they take on a slack handful of cadets each year (and no I have no idea why) but they will still carry on recruiting predominantly experienced pilots.

People will no doubt argue but frankly I think you'd be hard pushed to find a better scheduled airline job in the U.K.
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