Hasdrubal

An interesting aspect to the ash cloud came to my attention over the last day or two. The full time employees of Ryaniar who were stranded away from base are being looked after by the company. Basic employee rights law comes into play and their hotel rooms, meals etc. etc. are all being paid for by the airline.

For those Brookfield pilots who were forced to use the likes of Scanlons and McNamara's to set up a company where they are an employee of that company with a few other pilots regardless of whether they are a director/shareholder as an employee you are entitled under the same employment law to be compensated by their employer.

This means that for those of you who are employees in this arrangement and found yourself stuck away from base "on standby" you are entitled to claim you expenses from the company.

Brookfield and the accountants who sold their souls to get on the preferred list in order to screw the contractor pilots are now about to have their chickens come home to roost.

In most cases a member of staff from the accountants is a fellow director with the pilots. Send your claim against the company into this director.

In other cases the member of staff from the accountant is not only a director but also a shareholder submit your claim to him also. You guys are in a even better position that they guys who are also directors of the companies.

I know that the response is going to be to tell you to F Off. Other accountants and solicitors flagged all of these potential issues to Brookfield and us pilots a year ago.

Greed and taking advantage of us for an additional 3% of our income took over and we were forced into this arrangement.

aerobat

We were stuck downroute for six days, four star hotel was provided for myself, the Brookfield First Officer and the cabin crew, all paid for by Ryanair.
No complaints here.

767200ER

Have heard of other occasions where crew have been stranded downroute and had to overnight, brookfield or not, ryanair covered their costs.
They really aren't the fork tongued devils some will have you believe they are.

JW411

So, once again, Hasdrubal ends up with egg on his face.

McBruce

As already pointed out by numerous posters, the costs were covered by the company regardless of employment status, which you would expect, so no complaints from the work force!!

zerotohero

What a waste of internet space!

Idiot

Callsign Kilo

Hasdrubal

Let's face it. A Brookfield pilot operating for Ryanair is a Ryanair pilot without a contract with their 'employer'. However this is the only differentiation. Brookfield, as we know, is just another extension of FR; as are the varies entities that supply contract cabin crew, engineers and ground staff. When it comes to operational matters, we all seem to be treated as one. I have never heard of anything to the contrary.

Tolan

What about earnings lost because of not flying on the days of the ash cloud? A lot of Ryanair guys must be 5 days of flying out of pocket.

Or am I misunderstanding and will they get paid?

Callsign Kilo

Yes we are and no we won't - in short.

767200ER

So will most pilots from most airlines affected. If you're paid anything per schedule block hour, and you don't fly any block hours, why should any airline pay you for them?

Hasdrubal

Everyone knows I am looking for a way out of having to fork over this 3% which in reality 2% is going back to Brookfield. Wages are being cut enough already without paying back a few grand a year to Brookfield.

The Irish civil service rate for an overnight trip and away from office allowances are more than we got from Ryanair that why I mentioned it.

Its not fair that they can have it both ways. I pay 3% and in return get nothing only a €300 accountancy service and I pay about €8k a year in extra tax than what I used to when I had my own single man company.

Thats over €1k a month extra in tax and Brookfield clawbacks. Plenty of you guys must have it to spare that you don't seem to give a toss about it and constantly defend Brookfield.

I accept that Brookfield are a necessary evil and they are making their pound of flesh out of each of us. My problem is that they are using the Irish tax office as an excuse to screw €1k a month out of me when the tax office themselves have told me that what Brookfield and their accountants are saying is just bull and has not come from the tax office.