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Old 9th October 2009, 21:10   #1 (permalink)
 
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Jet2 Jobs

Advertised on the website at:

Jobs.Jet2.com

Good Luck!
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Old 9th October 2009, 22:38   #2 (permalink)
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Great news. I hear they pay really well. Is this true?
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Old 9th October 2009, 23:23   #3 (permalink)
 
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It is not.
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Old 10th October 2009, 14:04   #4 (permalink)
 
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Did some digging on their website.
So even if you are type rated and have experience on the 737 or 757 (types they operate) you still have to sign a training bond with them - WHAT THE !
Outrageous.
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Old 10th October 2009, 15:45   #5 (permalink)
 
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The salary is £41,064 which is effective after probation. The probationary salary (from day after licence endorsement) is £35,700 and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training.

Seems pretty good to me
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Old 10th October 2009, 16:22   #6 (permalink)
 
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Being bonded for training costs even when joining type rated is acceptable even though this is usually 6 months.

With regards to the salary mentioned above, this is for non experienced type rated guys as it also mentioned base training provided. So surely when joining type rated with a significant amount of hours one can expect to start with a SFO salary??
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Old 10th October 2009, 16:52   #7 (permalink)
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6K bond for rated guys 'Madness, this is Jet2'
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Old 10th October 2009, 22:08   #8 (permalink)
 
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I'm glad there is recruitment and even more so that its my own airline.

However, last I had heard, there was still quite a few in the hold pool?

Don't be surprised if the contract is an 80% one.

If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2)

There is a large fleet transfer list and it would have been nice to see a move up for some of the F/O's. Although I fully understand the cost savings by employing type rated pilots.

Lets hope then, we can get some good 737 / 757 rated guys. Charter & longhaul background would be good from my point of view, especially with the routes we do now and the ones that are rumored for the future.

Any news on the Chief Pilot role or has the company finally realised how hard it will be to replace the fantastic one we had!!!!!
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Old 10th October 2009, 23:02   #9 (permalink)
 
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Posted by Squawkident
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The salary is £41,064 which is effective after probation. The probationary salary (from day after licence endorsement) is £35,700 and the full salary is implemented two months after the successful completion of line training.

Seems pretty good to me
This is for first officers!!

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The salary is £66,024 which is effective after probation. The
probationary salary is £60,180, and the full salary is
implemented two months after the successful completion of
line training.
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Old 10th October 2009, 23:08   #10 (permalink)
 
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Surely in the current economy most would be glad to stay with the same airline for 3 or more years... Although not usual, can't see how the bond would bother people, really.
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Old 11th October 2009, 01:27   #11 (permalink)
 
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£35,700 to be second in command of a 737
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Old 11th October 2009, 01:43   #12 (permalink)
 
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If your going to apply, BALPA members only please!!!!!! (BALPA are going through proceedings for recognition at Jet2)
Article 1 of chapter 38 of the 1990 Employment Act makes that illegal.
The act which can be read in full here specifically states in the very first article of said chapter:

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Access to employment

1
Refusal of employment on grounds related to union membership .(1)
It is unlawful to refuse a person employment— .
(a)
because he is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or .
(b)
because he is unwilling to accept a requirement— .
(i)
to take steps to become or cease to be, or to remain or not to become, a member of a trade union, or .
(ii)
to make payments or suffer deductions in the event of his not being a member of a trade union. .
(2)
A person who is thus unlawfully refused employment has a right of complaint to an industrial tribunal. .
(3)
Where an advertisement is published which indicates, or might reasonably be understood as indicating— .
(a)
that employment to which the advertisement relates is open only to a person who is, or is not, a member of a trade union, or .
(b)
that any such requirement as is mentioned in subsection (1)(b) will be imposed in relation to employment to which the advertisement relates, .
a person who does not satisfy that condition or, as the case may be, is unwilling to accept that requirement, and who seeks and is refused employment to which the advertisement relates, shall be conclusively presumed to have been refused employment for that reason.
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Old 11th October 2009, 02:58   #13 (permalink)
 
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Can anybody give an indication how much one could expect to receive in duty pay and sector pay in a typical summer month? It's difficult to estimate what a type-rated captain could come out with after tax. Any figures would be much appreciated.
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Old 11th October 2009, 14:12   #14 (permalink)
 
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I guess they will be getting a flood of applications from Thomson pilots if they can stomach the £6k that is required.

I remember when pilots were well paid and properly looked after.

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Old 11th October 2009, 14:38   #15 (permalink)
 
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i cant see what the problem is with the 6k bond, its to cover OCC costs, the pilot is NOT asked to pay this up front and it only lasts for one year.

simples!
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Old 11th October 2009, 16:52   #16 (permalink)
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A bond usually is required if, the company has paid for the training? If type rated it should be free of charge!
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Old 11th October 2009, 17:41   #17 (permalink)
 
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Personally, I thinks it's great that in this economic downturn that an airline is in a position to recruit. If I were out of a job right now I would jump at the chance to get my income back and pay the bills etc...

The bond is neither here nor there, I know it may seem OTT if you are already type rated, but really it only comes into play if you leave within the year which is not likely to happen is it!

If you don't like the sound of the job on offer then don't apply. If you can be that picky then you obviously don't need the job that much, so stay away and give someone who needs/want's the job a chance.

Good luck to those who do apply.
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Old 11th October 2009, 18:53   #18 (permalink)
 
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MPH read again......it IS free of charge! but should you leave within one year you will be charged the proportion left of 6k that covers the cost of the OCC (operator conversion course). Not unreasonable.
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Old 11th October 2009, 19:28   #19 (permalink)
 
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I think what the other posters are getting at is why the hell should you be bonded for company related training?

What other jobs are there out there that do that? You join a company with a licence and a type rating and years of experience, if they want you to work for them then should be happy to invest a small amount in a little bit of training that THEY require you to have.

What other industry does this??????
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Old 11th October 2009, 21:38   #20 (permalink)
 
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I joined one of the largest UK charter in 2005 type rated and signed for a £2400 bond over a 6 month period to cover the company conversion training...no big deal!

6K over 12 months is slithly more but provided that you sign the contract with the intention to stay then what is the issue here?

Especially in these times where more and more pilots are looking for any temporary flying job just to keep filling their logbooks and paying their bills who will then move on when something better comes along it is completely acceptable to show some sort of commitment by signing this bond.

End of this discussion if you ask me...time to focus on what really matters as T & C, future outlook of Jet2.com etc!
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