Terms and EndearmentThe forum the beancounters hoped would never happen. Your news on pay, rostering, allowances, extras and negotiations where you work. Let others in the industry make educated choices on where the grass is less brown! Scheduled, charter or contract -
Well said 727.
I know someone who was offered the job on the 737 recently and told because of the resession jet2 would only offer him £29,000. What a nice bunch they are.
I feel sorry for the guys out of work but if he didn't take it you know there'd be twenty guys behind him who would
Soooooperb Evian. It is just a market place. Right now, we are being shafted because we are two to a penny. It will change, then the entrepreneurs like Meeson will be forced to pay the market price. They will , because that is what they do & deserve all the success they rightly deserve. I would not take the risks that these high profile players take.
So, I will apply. Hate Balpa & will try to negotiate my own terms & conditions. Not a "cloth cap ,er, bruvers, unite to smash big business type,"but a COMMERCIAL pilot. I do this for money. I hope to come away from the interview with a seperate contract & hugely excessive pay to the Balpa clones .
Good luck chaps. Stay with Jet2 when Meeson sees the light and pays more when we are NOT two to a penny. He will. If he doesn't, leave. Simple. COMMERCIAL pilot's Licence. For Hire & reward. NOT a 16 year commitment to a type B Commission...eh ?
Been called in for an interview in a few weeks as well, TR'd on the 757.
Reading the forum and speaking face to face to some Jet2 pilots give a very different story. Forum seems to be mainly doom and gloom (with exceptions of course) and the face to face talks seem to be very positive and giving the impression of a good place to work.
Possibly a silly question, but how come Jet2 are only getting 4-500 hours a year out of their pilots? I've just done that over the summer period only.
P-T, don't know who you've been talking to but most are waiting for the off in the market! Have a look at the salary compared to other people. Unless they live next to the runway at LBA, anyone happy with their salary is a mong.
The flightdeck and cabin crew are all great and that's probably what people who work at Jet2 mean when they say it's a good company.
It's not a chopping airline but a training airline and 99% of the trainers are good guys who's main purpose is to train/teach you alongside telling you bad jokes.
There'll always been someone to help you if you come unstuck.
Saying that, you'll not get much time off. You'll have very high duty hours as our CEO wants you on duty even when no flying. Summer is very busy and winter used to be standbys but lot busier now.
There has been some sort of charm offensive recently but I think most guys know this to be the horseshit that it is. Jet2 is run by the goodwill of the pilots, cabin crew and support staff.
However, saying all that, I know guys are desperate at the moment so come on in ... just don't say no one didnt warn you
They could put you LBA, Man or Newcastle. More aircraft for all bases so could be anywhere. Management changing their minds all the time. Newcastle is a nice base. Man if you like punch ups. LBA if you're ex navy and like landing on aircraft carriers
Summer roster is five or six on, two off. maybe one stb in that. Late finish prob with a TFS or PFO, early start after your days off. Saying that they'll do what they need to with you so you could get anything. Night stops are usually charters but rare.
Yeow,
I am with Landflap. Also going to the interview. With us, two to a penny, I am ready to "give "in order to feed my family & pay my 100% 8 X salary mortgage for my house near the runeay at LBA. I am ex Navy & have never had any problem taking the first wire !
Oh, & I do not want any days off. Glad for a job & prepared to pay the market price . BUT, when it changes, I will miss the first wire, Go Around & ballot hard for my T&C. Might even ask for some days off !
Oh & if you think the Unions are great......Look at poor old Wille Walsh & BA.
Count Bawbag "Unless they live next to the runway at LBA, anyone happy with their salary is a mong."
Lets just say Count Bawbag does not represent the average level of intelligence or literacy that prevails amongst the crew at Jet2, sounds like a shining example of what ?? well i shall let you decide that ???
Bawbag can you kindly explain to us all what a "mong" is ????????? Oh you decided not to ? Rather thought silence may be the reply, why dont you crawl back into your hole for Winter and nibble your way through your Winter nut supply and do us all a favour. Or even better i know Ryanair are looking for crew, they have a contract that will suit you down to the ground, just remember you may need a high quality suit case.
Slowjet,
Being ex NAVY is not enough for LBA.You must be trained on carriers and have a qualification in very strong X-wind from the (only) left up to the doors limit wind speed
captkink seeing as my reply to you was taken off. I'll post again.
You like listening to yourself talking out of your arse. If you are left of the centerline I pity any young F/O having to sit next to a chump like you.
Good luck with Jet 2, I hope thay you are successful with them.
I have to say I feel you are a little misguided in thinking that:-
(1) Philip Meeson will adhere to you requests of better T&cs once the
market picks up
(2) You will be able to achieve this single handedly.
I feel if you are not in a united union you will not have a leg to stand on. The only way to be effective is to have high membership and stand united. I am sorry to say you will still be a penny to the pound and PM will just show you the door!! Unfortunately, once these low conditions of pay are accepted there will be no going back to the good old days. When you compare PM with MOL of Ryanair its like comparing a shit with a turd!!!
My only advice would be to be party of a union as 300 people singing from the same hymn sheet is better than 1.
I do wish you luck and wish you best for the futurre.