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6100 gbp per month at Virgin for a SFO must be tax free or living in the channel islands. Rumour is that Virgin just layed off the bottom 50 on the seniority list?
Air France CPT for 6 years, in the company since 92 125000 euros per year 48 days leave planning the month before for the month after normal planning 12 days off per month
Thats over £160k a year gross by my rough maths for a 26yr old working for the NHS (albeit in a skilled position)..... I will bite my tongue rather than go on a "Gordon Brown" rant about public Vs private sector etc etc...
The "drivel" in the Daily Mail, is not drivel, it's true, I was offered this position with very little experience (it would have been rude to turn it down, considering the obsence amounts of money they are throwing around), and i am planning to milk it to the last drop.
I would love to fly to get out of the test room. My work consists of 8-10 hours per day, in a windowless room in a basement. I have the "perk" of picking up some nasty infections from my patients
Without sounding ungrateful the money is phenomenal, however the very repetetive nature of the job, does you head in.
Senior manager, medium sized European cargo airline, with global responsibilities. Area of expertise is safety. Gross 97.000 Euro/year + company wheels (BMW 3-series) and free motion lotion. No ID tickets, but amassing around 400K miles a year, so don't need it. 45 annual leave days, working 9 to 5 (ish) and never missed an important family gig, christmas or new year. Don't have to live in a flee infested shytehol or a horrid sandpit - happy to pay my 40% in taxes for the benfit of living in civilised corner of the most civilised part of the world.
Hanging up the CPL is the best move I ever made; now I only fly for fun in slow and analogue bugsmashers.
Korean Air B777 DEC US$ 12500 (net) per month plus around US$ 1000 per diem 16 working days + 3 travel days, 11 days off and about 75 hours p/m no vacation
KLM 744 FO Bruto +/- 150.000€ Netto 10x 5.800€ + 2x 10.500€ excl. avg of 300€ daily allowance per month. Retirement after 56. Block hours around 80 hrs/month 750hrs/year when business is normal. Usually 4 trips/8 sectors per month, sometimes more, very sometimes less. ZED travel and 10% discount on normal fares.
Hi Khaosai! Sorry, but no provident/pension fund whatsoever. Also no medical/dental scheme for self or family. But I forgot to mention about 4 confirmed tkts for family members per year on KAL network (plus ZED tkts). Regards, 3holer
All my career (30+ years), I have chased the paycheck. Multiple carriers on multiple continents. At the end of the game, I am back in the USA. Flying for an airline that most of you would turn your nose up at (Kalitta Air). Am a B-744 TRE and also do line training. 2008 was a pretty good year, all in all. $266K, plus 401k, plus medical insurance. 21 days holiday. 14 days sick leave.
Spent most of my career looking for "the job". Stumbled on this one by accident and can't see leaving any time soon...
Interesting reading. Hope you find mine interesting too...
I'm a 3500hr pilot. I hold an ATPL. I'm a top grade instructor with most approvals, RPT experience, turbine experience, etc.
$3000 AUD / mth (approx £1500 GBP) after tax 42 days recreation leave Expenses paid Uniform not provided Loss of licence not provided Statory 9% pension contribution Roster. What roster? Sometimes a week off, sometimes min rest. I'd rather work cos there's nothing to do out here in Hicksville Outback town. Oh, and I'm flying turbocharged twins - ho hum...
I'm on hold with an airline but downturn means I'll be holding for a while. Current job is to keep current. I'm a full day drive from partner (for those in Europe that's > 800km - think Edinburgh to Plymouth but not on a motorway). Return ticket on regional carrier to home at last check was $900 (£440).
Upside: a) I have a job when many others locally have had their jobs go bust b) I'm flying in a part of the world most people will never see except from FL350 c) Small company treats me well and gets me home on overnights whenever possible
Refining "take home pay" - Career goals observation
Ladies and Gents,
I am going to refine the previous poster's "Take Home Pay" hoping this thread would serve as a good indicator for myself and others as to where this industry is leading to.
Let's try to make it take at home pay with short description of current experience and also include: years in the industry (lets count from day one flying for a 121 or the equivalent in other parts of the world), and age.
Me: 26yrs old, US Regional. 2 yrs FO, 3500TT, ~$2300/month net. plus plus plus.
Net Basic: 3000USD/ 2000GBP 9 times a year, 6000USD/ 4000GBP 3 times a year Net Productivity 30USD/ 20GBP starting @ hr 69. Net Allowances avg. 700USD/ 470GBP per month