Happy at work? Airlines with good working morale
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I'm happy. Good airline (KLM), nice airport (AMS), commuting out of that toilet called LHR is a pain but that's my choice to live abroad.Pay is great and plenty of days off back home with a young family.
Sorry to sound positive to all the doom merchants on here .......
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Sorry to sound positive to all the doom merchants on here .......
As for me, working seasonally is just fine, and especially as they fly me for three months, but pay for five........not a bad deal.
Even better as I'm on a very familiar type...L1011.
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Airlines with good working morale
Nonexistent
They died a stone age ago. Virgin (the mainland) feels ok, but it gives U piss-pay.
Since awhile pilots have become an attachment to the aircraft. I foresee a halving of the quality of life of ATPL holders in 10 years.
The new generation of airliners will only need a pilot for a hard reset...
They died a stone age ago. Virgin (the mainland) feels ok, but it gives U piss-pay.
Since awhile pilots have become an attachment to the aircraft. I foresee a halving of the quality of life of ATPL holders in 10 years.
The new generation of airliners will only need a pilot for a hard reset...
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Good airline, competent management, good lifestyle (pay not bad and predictable roster pattern with lots of days off), home every night (almost) and expanding network. You guessed it, a LOCO with a bright orange sticker on it!
Join Date: Oct 1999
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KLM
Am with F100 Driver on this one. KLM is the place to be.....
...great pay, nice rosters, nice crews, plenty of time off, part time work available at 80% & 65%....and 'free' commuting to / from work if you live outside Holland too.
..........it all works for me
...great pay, nice rosters, nice crews, plenty of time off, part time work available at 80% & 65%....and 'free' commuting to / from work if you live outside Holland too...........it all works for me
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Ray,
You ARE with me on this one (fleet that is....) although we haven't been rostered together yet unfortunately.
Thanks for reminding me about the free commuting tickets - they certainly save a few (hundred) quid every month!
See you back at work next week.
You ARE with me on this one (fleet that is....) although we haven't been rostered together yet unfortunately.
Thanks for reminding me about the free commuting tickets - they certainly save a few (hundred) quid every month!
See you back at work next week.
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LUVING it at Monarch. Ex Flybe so nuff said. Averaging 500hrs per year. However a quiet base one year can become quite busy the next year.
Long haul/short haul mix.
Great bunch to fly with (even though cabin crew are having a hard time at the mo, they still know how to smile)
Long haul/short haul mix.
Great bunch to fly with (even though cabin crew are having a hard time at the mo, they still know how to smile)
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Airbus short-haul family, no real control over my roster YET, although i like the variety/surprise each month. Lots of night stops, enjoy the lifestyle and i can't complain about the salary either (and i am at the very bottom of the pile). Love it.
Hopefully T5 and LHR will continue to run smoothly.
Hopefully T5 and LHR will continue to run smoothly.
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i'm not flying for them, friend of mine does
Edelweiss Air, Switzerland...long haul ops with their A330.
Only one single aircraft, if it goes tech another is leased in.
Destinations are only the Canaries short / mid haul and the Maledives, Brazil, the Caribbean and Japan (seasonal) long haul.
Most destinations served once or twice a week only, gives the crews a lovely long layover at destination
apart from Punta Cana I believe, which is min. rest.
Only one single aircraft, if it goes tech another is leased in.
Destinations are only the Canaries short / mid haul and the Maledives, Brazil, the Caribbean and Japan (seasonal) long haul.
Most destinations served once or twice a week only, gives the crews a lovely long layover at destination
apart from Punta Cana I believe, which is min. rest.
Flying jocks, you got to be jocking!? Just wait til this winter and a few more months and you'll change your mind.
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It all depends on what you want out of life. I flew for KLM for 5 years, did the whole commuting to and from Holland for free, flew the 737 and had a good job. After a few years though commuting on days off and going through security 5-6 times per day, starting early/finishing late, spending 7-8 days at home a month didn't do it for me anymore. I fly for the big orange now and have to say I really enjoy the flying and also the fact that 4 days off means 4days off and not 2 of them putting my uniform on and sitting in the airport waiting for the plane to arrive. Major carriers get slot delays and have to de-ice as well you know! Glad it's still working for my former friends at KLM and I wish them nothing but the best, it just wasn't for me anymore.
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Ennie,
Kerel, I heard you left. Sorry you did, although I can fully understand you wanting to be closer to home and don't want the commuting hassle ( I wished you stayed though until you could hold ICA, I think you would have liked it), With all the KLM UK integration controvercies, you were always able to distinguish fact from fiction, be objective and positive. I wish you all the best at Easy.
I have to concur with the other guys, I think KLM is a great place to work. I just wish career advancement is a little quicker but with a really young pilot group most advancements are from expansion and with the current economic turmoil, it doesn't look good.
as a side note, I fell from the couch when I saw the notorious 411A say something positive about a major airline. Dude, are you okay?
Kerel, I heard you left. Sorry you did, although I can fully understand you wanting to be closer to home and don't want the commuting hassle ( I wished you stayed though until you could hold ICA, I think you would have liked it), With all the KLM UK integration controvercies, you were always able to distinguish fact from fiction, be objective and positive. I wish you all the best at Easy.
I have to concur with the other guys, I think KLM is a great place to work. I just wish career advancement is a little quicker but with a really young pilot group most advancements are from expansion and with the current economic turmoil, it doesn't look good.
as a side note, I fell from the couch when I saw the notorious 411A say something positive about a major airline. Dude, are you okay?
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I hate where I am at now(TAM). Definately the worst flying job I've ever had. Bad pay, no CRM, people with attitudes and no communication to management. It's a one way street here. We have no say over our schedules, equipment we fly, days off etc.
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Easy has allot of good points, stable roster etc, but a serious lack of good old fashion fun down route as there is rarely any down route time with your crew. I knew this when I joined so only me to blame but I think if we do start doing more regular night stops (for those who want them) it could really improve things. I know allot of people like coming home every night so I may be alone on this. My view is we spend all our time travelling and never get anywhere, which means it's not an airline lifestyle, its a job. Gets a bit depressing.
Can be all to easy to think the grass is greener somewhere else. I think it everyday.
Can be all to easy to think the grass is greener somewhere else. I think it everyday.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls and any inbetweenies......
I fly to the land of the ice and snow, to the land of mongol hats and to the strange world of bad ju ju.
5 star Hotels, low rent motels and mossie nets are the order of the night.
Its not bad you know, and above all it is always interesting.
I could have a whinge about several things, but none of them are really earth shattering so I shan't bother.
I fly to the land of the ice and snow, to the land of mongol hats and to the strange world of bad ju ju.
5 star Hotels, low rent motels and mossie nets are the order of the night.
Its not bad you know, and above all it is always interesting.
I could have a whinge about several things, but none of them are really earth shattering so I shan't bother.
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Greetings you filthy animals.....
I am ecstatic at AA. As long as I am able to ignore our weasel-faced VP of Flt. and get served my ration of crew food, its gets better every day. The paycheck clears every month and me lovely bride is going in for her C-check soon. Only 2555 days 'til retirement.
Nostrovia!
I am ecstatic at AA. As long as I am able to ignore our weasel-faced VP of Flt. and get served my ration of crew food, its gets better every day. The paycheck clears every month and me lovely bride is going in for her C-check soon. Only 2555 days 'til retirement.
Nostrovia!
