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Yes I do know how luckly I am - but perhaps not as luckly as the guys who were under 55 when the age 60+ came in - I understand that some are on nearly 250k pa now - pension + salary - good on them I say!!
Spare a thought, if you can, for those of us who were not under 55 at !st Oct 06 and who were forced to go despite being nowhere near PP24. Even though I'm doing alright it still rankles.
$14000 USD/month gross .... $7500 USD/month net including pension deductions + $400 allowances.
75-80 hrs /month with 8 RON's (15 days working avg)
37 days vacation/yr
Transavia.com in the Netherlands
Take home pay 2600 euro after 1½ years in service
+ app. 1000 euro into the pension scheme.
600-700 hours a year, extremely tuff schedules, example:
Day 1 check in 4:00 am local time to LPA, landing 16:00 pm
Day 2 check in 16:00 pm local time, landing 4:00 am
And so on...."
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Let me get this straight. does that mean you are overnighting in LPA for 12 hours straight before ur showtime at LPA ? or does that mean you arrive back in Amsterdam at 16:00 only to show up the next day at the airport at 16:00 PM for a red eye? If that is the case it sucks and I see ur point. However if you are saying you think a 12 hour layover sucks I would encourage you to come over here Stateside and fly for a regional.... 12 hour overnights are like a freaking vacation!!!! try 6/7 hour reduced rest overnights after flying 7 legs on a 14hr duty day.
Salary as year 3 jet 2 fo is about £36,300 for someone who joined when I did-not sure what it is now. It increases with annual increments.
£36300 is £3025 pm gross. Pay the tax + national insurance on that and you're left with about £2300 net. Plus duty and sector pay which for me worked out at about £350 pm when taken over the whole of last year: £2650 pm net. Others may be different of course depending on time spent at work and away from base.
In my case, add £250 net per month training pay to my paycheck makes it £2900; so yep it's more like 2900 than 3000.
no sponsor, I can't comment on what the other fo's make, as I don't know whats in their contracts. But it is the same company.
"Costcutting" by watering down new joiners contracts then reflecting it as increased profit on the company's balance sheet is a "clever" tactic developed by companies like ryanair. Unfortunately diseases like that seem to be contageous.
Ok, here go my 2006 numbers:
A320/19/18 First Officer
9th year in Mexicana Airlines
Hours Flown: 820
Total Monthly Income (after tax): $7,100 Usd, 5,600
Income includes per deim, food + gas coupons, anual savings fund.
Pension Fund around 10%, still very good medical coverage/insurance, 5 days off per month.
If you have certain seniority you can apply for 7x5 (fly/off)
Vacations down to 30 days (after agreement) and +1 day starting 10th year of seniority
We just signed an agreement lowering our costs because of 6 new LCC in Mexico... so probably these numbers will go down around 15% in 2007...
cheers!
Last edited by pezetaroi : 27th April 2007 at 01:20.
BMi Regional 145 Capt.
2nd year take home after all deductions inc my pension contributions 3400GBP per month. The figure includes duty pay.
Last year flew 500hrs.
Min 8 days off per month.
Farly stable roster.
Dragonair Hong Kong - Airbus First Officer (Year 1)
Previously EasyJet 737 Captain
Converted From Hong Kong Dollars to UK STG
Monthly:
Base Salary : £3800.00
Housing : £2870.00
Overtime beyond 75 Hours in the month around £50 flying hour
Overtime beyond 85 Hours in the month around £100 flying hour
Annually
Travel Fund : £7000.00
Chinese New Year Bonus : £3800.00 (Months Salary)
Chinese New Year Bonus paid 1/3 year one, 2/3 year 2 and one months salary every year thereafter
15% Gratuity. First paid in year 3 and backdated to cover first 3 years, thereafter annually
All Figures are GROSS and Hong Kong Tax 15% (give or take a little)
In addition, standard Family Medical Cover, School Fees, House Purchase scheme, etc etc
Hours per year? unsure as yet, guess around 750, certainly less than easyJet.
Monthly GROSS Salaries (including Housing Allowance)
Year 1 FO Average Salary (GROSS) £6200
Year 2 FO Average Salary (GROSS) £6400
Year 3 FO Average (Gratuity Year - 3 years backdated ) £8400
Year 4 FO & Thereafter Average Salary (GROSS) Around £7300
Remember GROSS, so deduct around 15% for Gordon Browns buddy in Hong Kong.
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It's already a good resource for N.A. based carriers but international info is somewhat lacking. CHeers