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Swiss Europen SF/O 8ish year on Avro
5000,- sfr/3000 Euro/2128Pound net after taxes shocking eh??
800,-sfr expense but needed, aroend 12 nightstops.
working 6/3/5/2 aroend 865 block/year, 32 holidays.
no extras, but you pay for your parking 50,-.
Schedulechanges around 3 per day.
Flights cancelled due to crewshortage average 7/day
Pilots leaving 6/month.........
Net Salary mid scale including the 13th month : 6 500 Euros / 4 432 GBP / 8 787 USD (all benefits include)
Advantages : This figure includes deductions for pension (22%). Final salary pension 30/45th's at age 55 with 22 years service. French social security, 45 days annual leave, loss of licence insurance, ...
French Tax to be paid the next year. Depending on your family charges and expenses you had for your work. It turns around 5 to 10 % of your net incomes for an annual revenue of around 80 000 Euros. Higher if you earn more
- pension +3% paid by company to your own pension fund
- union represetation strong, well organised emoticon:bow: :bow: bow: (in fact all of the above and much below only thanks to heavy negotiations yielding 15% payrise in each of last 3 years
- annual paid leave 35 days honoured by quarterly "day average"
- sick leave 3-5 days year, some transferrable
- loss if licence cover 60.000
- airport car park 18
- average hours 700 +/- 50 (slowly increasing)
- 7 on / 2 off, once a month 4 days off mandatory, 1 free weekend mandatory. Minimum days off 9, but 12/month on quarterly aveage. Max duty hrs 56 in 7 days. Daily duty max 12, discretion not above 14.
- roster on 20th for 1-10th, on 1st 11th to 30th. Standby duties 2-3, probability 30%. Stability excellent, changes closer than 48 hrs and for nominated off days only when agreed upon
- (bi)annual medical rostered duty time, free of charge
- sim/annual training time rostered duty time
- onboard drinks unlimited from stock, crew meal provided, choice from catering (20+ airline dishes) available 48 hrs beforehand
- company laptop PC, phone 50 credit incl. internet access
- training bond 5 yrs
FD
LAHSO: NE figures ?
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Ryanair Capt. £ 3.000 monthly plus flt.pay about 1500-2000. However everything has to be paid by oneself, carpark, licence, medical etc. And on top of that it is almost impossible to get a holiday when you wish
Contract B744 FO with an Asian carrier
About £3900 net of UK tax + $450 perdiems on a busy month (which is rare)
No pension from company. All at current, poor, $/£ ER.
BAe 146 Capt Ad-Hoc & Charter Operator. Recently upgraded from F/O.
Net salary with no pension deductions can vary from £3300 ish when quiet to £3800 ish when busy and away from base often and could rise higher when always away in rare cases. If you have expenses such as medicals or car parking then that can bump the take home more but it is not fair to include that since that is money you have already spent and are owed!
Aigle Azur(france) A320 family commander(1 year), 4th year of service.
Net, after tax and all these bullshit deductions, 4500 13 times paid on a 12 months basis, it comes roughly 4900 take home every month.
Far less than many long haul F/O with less responsabilities .
Cheers.
Year 1: After all the deductions (pension,alpa...)=2700CAD, 1800Euro pm
Year 2: 3000CAD, 2000Euro
Year 3: Not much more
Year 4: Not much more
Flight pay of 600-800CAD included in the above total.
Work about 16 days on average, fly about 80h. Anywhere from 4-8 sectors per day.
Upgrade: 17 years in Vancouver, 7-8 years Montreal, Toronto.
CRJ pay is the same.
Can you explain the No car parking bit. You telling me, if lets say you are based at Liverpool and are flying out of your base, you have to pay for car parking at Liverpool.
EGCC4284 That is exactly what I am saying. You pay for staff car parking current rate approx £22 per month charged every 6 months
Almost 10Yr. Capt. 7400 approx. (depending on overtime) before taxes = average net 4600/Month for 12 months + 13th and 14th salary (June/November) of around net 9800. So....
12x4600= 55200
9800 x2= 19600
55200+19600= 74800 take home pay per year this is approx. $USD101350/Yr or £51000/Yr or $CAD115000/Yr or $AUD121700/Yr or SA Rand 724000/Yr.......
55 to 75 Hrs. per month on Dash 8 300/400 average 700 to 800 Hrs per Yr. 5 weeks of holidays per Yr.
Not too bad compared to the rest
The show must go on....
SAA F/O with 4 yrs service flying A319. Take home 2500 pounds. Fly anywhere between 50 and 100 hours a month depending on how confused the roster department is.
747 classic FO for Asian cargo airline.
$7500 pm after US taxes with good health insurance and around $400 a month on per diem.
Average 8-10 days of work pm. 250 hrs per year.
shocking eh??
monthly take home
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