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Old 12th April 2007, 14:11   #41 (permalink)
 
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FO KLM 747, I am on parental leave (80% contract for 12 months), salary: EUR 4800 (including EUR 450 route allowance), after tax and pension (bruto EUR 7400). Get every year in May vacation money; approx a month salary. Get in December a 13th month pay. Fly approx. 600 hrs a year.
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Old 12th April 2007, 18:33   #42 (permalink)
 
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Some of our line Captains are taking home between 8K and 10K Sterling a month for 750 to 850 hrs a year....(and that's paying 15% pension contributions.....I think you chaps in the sandpit are under paid

Presume 10k take home after pension is a wind up - that's equivalent to about 200k per year. If not what outfit?
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Old 12th April 2007, 19:00   #43 (permalink)
 
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Money

In Alaska, single pilot IFR flying Navajo's: 4,500 usd/mo (no overtime)
Biggest month, lots of overtime: 9,000 usd/mo

Dash 8, JFK CA: 3,000 usd/mo

Go figure.
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Old 12th April 2007, 19:26   #44 (permalink)
 
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Tag Aviation (uk) Capt Gulfstream G550,take home £4,500 per month plus £46 per diem,2 weeks on/2 off plus leave,30 hours per month.A definite improvement on last job as SFO @ easyJet! (£3,300 p.m. & 80 hours a month)
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Old 12th April 2007, 19:44   #45 (permalink)
 
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Fat Dog,

Its EK and its their total package. For a new Captain if you just look at basic pay it is 28,000aed/mth (3888 pounds).

To that you add 10600 for a house, up to 3333/child, 12% into prov fund 3360 and say 1,000/mth for medical. Three kids, wifey and add it all up and it comes to: 52500aed/mth or 7291 pounds but you still actually take home 3888 pounds. As a Brit probably the basic plus housing gives a better idea of comparative pay so that would be 38,600aed or 5300 pounds/month. Alternatively just look at the pay that you have after you have paid for you mortgage and see how that compares to the 3.8k.

Don't know why, but it doesn't seem to go very far though and is getting eroded by the pace of inflation. The deal was stunning 15 years ago but just seems to be drifting slowly downwards. Most people don't leave EK for the pay rate they leave for 2 reasons:

1. Had enough of Dubai - it gets old quickly, that is why EK put a 7 year service requirement on the pilots to get their cash out of the fund.
2. Constant back of the clock max hour rosters.

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Old 12th April 2007, 20:56   #46 (permalink)
 
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"Dash 8, JFK CA: 3,000 usd/mo"

Stop figuring, it's Mesa!
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Old 12th April 2007, 22:09   #47 (permalink)
 
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Wizofoz,
Are those rose tinted DEC glasses your wearing by any chance. Id be happy too. If so Shame about some of your colleagues, 4 yearsin with a butt plug inserted
Hows the social life working out for you? still as long as your happy.
Fly safe
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Old 13th April 2007, 10:08   #48 (permalink)
 
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IT Contractor (Large scale upgrades/migrations/deployments)
45 hour week with 10-15 hours on the roads per week
Average £5,250 take home per month for the last 6 months. 2 to go.
Thoroughly looking forward to earning £1,500 per month during the first year of my flying career (if it ever starts) .
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Old 13th April 2007, 10:25   #49 (permalink)
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Currently working as a landscape construction labourer while I await the start of my flying career, basic 160 hours per month, take home AUD$2400. Overtime on top of that.

Bring on the flying!

Cheers All.

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Old 13th April 2007, 10:42   #50 (permalink)
 
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Austrian B777 after 8 years and new contract, average 3700€ net incl. allowances. 2 times the year double salary. future prospects presently bad...
Upgrading after min. 16 years
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Old 13th April 2007, 10:49   #51 (permalink)
 
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Any accurate figures for AerLingus?
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Old 13th April 2007, 10:53   #52 (permalink)
 
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Presume 10k take home after pension is a wind up - that's equivalent to about 200k per year. If not what outfit?
Tied in with this link........

A Question of Tax

Why do you think so many UK based pilots live on the continent?
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Old 13th April 2007, 11:17   #53 (permalink)
 
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iberia f/O 7 years short medium haul, 3300eur + 2100eur duty pay, 3 extra payment a year of 3300eur, 30 day vacation no duty pay, 10k a year for pension,
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Old 13th April 2007, 11:27   #54 (permalink)
 
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B733 FO Jet2.com GBP £ 3000 net average.

500hours. Incl duty + sector pay.
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Old 13th April 2007, 12:25   #55 (permalink)
 
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Ryanair FO UK Base 2500-4200 depending on sector pay - average 3300pm for the year but 2800pm for the last 6 months - no flying. 750hrs last year. 28days annual leave 9 allocated by the company. No pension/uniform/food/car parking etc, roster 5days on 3 off - not the new pay proposal.
We get the use of free bleed air for the air-con in the cruise though.
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Old 13th April 2007, 15:00   #56 (permalink)
 
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Arable Farm Manager. Summer hours 0700-till you finish. Average summertime takehome per month £6,500. Social life: 0, life expectancey:
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Old 13th April 2007, 16:18   #57 (permalink)
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F/O A330/A320 LTU, FRA base average about 2900€ net in 2 year, 840h.
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Old 13th April 2007, 16:24   #58 (permalink)
 
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Virgin Captain (aircraft is irrelevent), 2nd year of command. Gross pay £8400. Net (after £1300 pension contributions, £2200 tax and £300 NI) £4600. Add to that around £600-£700 in allowances spent downroute. Add to the gross figure around £1300 company pension contribution, plus health insurance (both acute and critical illness) and loss-of-licence insurance.
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Old 13th April 2007, 22:45   #59 (permalink)
 
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Regional " AF Group " Fokker 100 Capt. 10 years. 17 days on the roads per month. Taking home 9000 eur net per month for the last 6 months. Minimum 6200 eur net for 63 hours. Double month one time the year.
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Old 13th April 2007, 23:02   #60 (permalink)
 
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Tyrolean DH8 Commander first year. 5600€ before taxes -> 3350€ net + 500€ allowances. Fubn flying though
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