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Old 3rd Oct 2017, 15:39
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Having operated the max in/out of SWF & BDL during the recent hot spell ( north of 30c) I have been very impressed with the performance margin and have not needed to even look at bleeds off, all are SFP aircraft, the fuel burn reduction is a big plus.

Winter ops bring fresh challenges of course, but many of the pilots operating these routes have a lot of experience with contaminated runways into Norway
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Old 3rd Oct 2017, 16:29
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seems my source at Norwegian a skipper on 738NG and the new MAX says GIB is a no go for them or infact likely for anyone with these types on an airline op.

its an A320 757 or a 737 classic mission or a 737-700 at best for GIB

sadly Monarch will not now be gong there anymore anyway

they have 45 MAX orders up for sale as now not wanted
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Old 4th Oct 2017, 01:35
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Not correct, based on 09 1013 000/0 +25c with bleeds off I calculate a MTOM of 73.3 so given max landing is 69.0 I don't see back to the UK as a problem.

The landing is more of a challenge but still above MLM with F40, not a big margin I'll grant you but 160 pax would be no issue.

The SFP makes a huge difference, I have landed at GIB in a 300 and stopped before the road.
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According to Google Earth, they are well underway on a runway extension that makes the runway TODA about 2700m (8800 feet). That should be plenty.
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Old 4th Oct 2017, 09:20
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Originally Posted by EIFFS
Rog747

Not correct, based on 09 1013 000/0 +25c with bleeds off I calculate a MTOM of 73.3 so given max landing is 69.0 I don't see back to the UK as a problem.

The landing is more of a challenge but still above MLM with F40, not a big margin I'll grant you but 160 pax would be no issue.

The SFP makes a huge difference, I have landed at GIB in a 300 and stopped before the road.
thank you for that - my pal at DY says they (DY) would be restricted on LDW to around 62 tonnes on GIB's 09 -
I assume a non-SFP a/c (738NG 73H)

the MAX has not AFAIK been developed yet with a SFP option although has been talked about

restricting payload by around 30 pax is quite a biggy from 189 to as you say about 160 - not sure if any airline ops would welcome that as either functional or economical?

the classic 300/400 to 700 (73G) series which can go in there now have no problems as you stated with a -300 thanks
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Old 23rd Nov 2017, 21:30
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Would anyone have 737 Max FCOM/FCTM available to send me via PM? My company are not due to get them for a few years. Any other interesting MAX documents would be also appreciated.
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Old 9th Apr 2018, 13:57
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Originally Posted by Skyjob
I think it will all be fine, after all the BBJ serviced for KLM used to fly AMS-IAH with some AUX tanks not even a decade ago.
That was non-stop, nil diversions (due fuel)
yeah but with a J load only - not 189Y
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It's wishing it were a 757 but clearly it is NOT! Actually the MTOW of a 752 is 255000 lbs...but according to some media or tabloids papers the 737 can currently carry up to 40000 Tons of fuel that is 40 kilotons
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