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Old 28th Nov 2016, 13:21
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Full, limited and als out. Lights.

I use a minimum in Jeppesen. but nowhere can find any length of approach lights for Full, limited and als out? Prompt who knows where to find. Please do not confuse with FALS, IALS, BALS, NALS. specifically interested in Full, limited and als out. Thank you.
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Are you sure they are not the same thing?
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Originally Posted by B737900er
Are you sure they are not the same thing?

they are associated. but I can not find the document where it says that specifically which corresponds.
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I dont use jeppesen but I see a lot of people confused. If you search in your manuals you could easily spot.

Of course it has to do with the lights. ALS out is self explanatory

CAT I PRECISION AND APV APPROACH MINIMUMS

An RVR of less than 750m may be used under the conditions a. to d. shown below (Full column). Oth-erwise the RVR is limited to 750m or above (Limited column).

a. CAT I operations to runways with FALS and TDZ and CL and with decision height of 200ft or
b. CAT I operations to runways with FALS but with-out TDZ and/or CL when using an approved HUDLS or an equivalent approved system or
c. CAT I operations to runways with FALS but with-out TDZ and/or CL when conducting a coupled or flight-director-flown approach to a decision height not less than 200ft or
d. APV to runways with FALS and TDZ and CL when using an approved HUD, but not below RVR 600m.
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Originally Posted by Lantirn
I dont use jeppesen but I see a lot of people confused. If you search in your manuals you could easily spot.

Of course it has to do with the lights. ALS out is self explanatory

CAT I PRECISION AND APV APPROACH MINIMUMS

An RVR of less than 750m may be used under the conditions a. to d. shown below (Full column). Oth-erwise the RVR is limited to 750m or above (Limited column).

a. CAT I operations to runways with FALS and TDZ and CL and with decision height of 200ft or
b. CAT I operations to runways with FALS but with-out TDZ and/or CL when using an approved HUDLS or an equivalent approved system or
c. CAT I operations to runways with FALS but with-out TDZ and/or CL when conducting a coupled or flight-director-flown approach to a decision height not less than 200ft or
d. APV to runways with FALS and TDZ and CL when using an approved HUD, but not below RVR 600m.
I know Full mean >719 m, Limited 420-719m, Als out < 420. But i cant find source
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Originally Posted by Airbus310
I know Full mean >719 m, Limited 420-719m, Als out < 420. But i cant find source
Sorry. Who is know where i can see it??
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