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Old 8th Sep 2016, 17:55
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Can I caution people to be careful when using the apparently simple phrase "full stall" as this means different things to different people. A full aerodynamic stall can be rather different that a full (certification/demonstration/flight test - pick your term) stall, especially on an envelope protected aircraft. So whether a specific OEM supports a "full stall" may be very dependent on what EXACTLY you mean.
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Old 8th Sep 2016, 18:06
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There is no difference between envelope protected and unprotected aircraft as far as stall is concerned because unless protections are removed the aircraft won't stall. The difference can be in aircraft behaviour between flight path stable and speed stable aircraft.
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Originally Posted by Vapilot2004
Unless they have changed their collective minds recently, last I heard, EASA, unlike the FAA, does not believe full stall training is a useful exercise,
Given the amount of altitude required to get the jet airliner outta full stall, its usefulness might be limited to scaring pilots of ever approaching the fully blown stall on line.

Good thing I did full stall on my last type rating sim. Possible cause might be I was trained by the Dutch, rather than the Europeans.

Originally Posted by vilas
The old recovery procedures with emphasis on minimum loss of height has been discarded after commuter crashes in the US where the thrust vector prevented the pilot from decreasing angle of attack.
Could you please provide reference to these accidents?
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