Scenario: During pushback cabin crew tells you they can not arm 1 slide. Can you legally open the door to check for a possible reason (e.g. ice/snow...) of the door problem with an engine running on the opposite side? Needless to say I would first make sure that the engine(s) on the side of the door to be opened are shut down.
Company rules do not forbid it however I'm interested if there would be any legal text (JAROPS or FAR AIMS).
Because the need to arm the doors is only once the engines are started... Order to rm doors is given when the push is started in the company I work for. It can take a while before one of your 24 cabin crew will get back to you with the bad news that one of the 16 slides does not arm.
FWIW, at my shop (US regional), we routinely open the door with the #2 engine running when we arrive. In fact, it's pretty rare for both engines to be shut down before the door opens.
Last edited by Check Airman; 24th Oct 2012 at 04:29.
Can you legally open the door to check for a possible reason (e.g. ice/snow...) of the door problem with an engine running on the opposite side?
Checked by whom? Some airline policies forbid you to open a door without steps or an aerobridge at the door unless the person opening the door has an approved safety harness
I recall opening the L5 and dispatching a "suspect" item found during taxi. It was a radio tape player of similar design to the one which brought down PanAm over Lockerbie. This was within a year of that tragic event and we did not want a similar fate to overtake us.
Last edited by Old Fella; 24th Oct 2012 at 11:47.
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I take it that after days since the openeing post, that there is no specific regulation against opening a door ( passenger entry door ?) with engines running.
It seems that this is covered under the operators SOPs and obviously can be over-ridden by the Captain if necessary?
er...the idiot who fell out of course. Who the **** else????
Jesus, what a mad world we live in if people feel the need to ask a question like that> :|
Perhaps one where a set of steps are pulled from the a/c side just as the stewardess is closing the door. She had one foot on the steps and fell through the gap between steps and a/c.
Scenario: During pushback cabin crew tells you they can not arm 1 slide. Can you legally open the door to check for a possible reason (e.g. ice/snow...) of the door problem with an engine running on the opposite side? Needless to say I would first make sure that the engine(s) on the side of the door to be opened are shut down.
Company rules do not forbid it however I'm interested if there would be any legal text (JAROPS or FAR AIMS).
Never seen a reg forbidding it. We used to start up the starboard engine all the time with the door and stair on the port side extended in the old HS748 in order to get hydraulic pressure for automatic retraction.
You can see it at the beginning of this youtube video.
Scenario: During pushback cabin crew tells you they can not arm 1 slide. Can you legally open the door to check for a possible reason (e.g. ice/snow...) of the door problem with an engine running on the opposite side? Needless to say I would first make sure that the engine(s) on the side of the door to be opened are shut down.
Company rules do not forbid it however I'm interested if there would be any legal text (JAROPS or FAR AIMS).
I am thinking of a larger problem here in your thought process.If you find the door is not fully closed and the slide will not arm, no engine running on the side you are having the problem with , sure sort it out. If the door appears to be fully closed and the slide will not arm, best bring her back to the gate and let your AMT/LAME have a look. It is CC not you at the door and you are unsure, back to the gate.
Last edited by grounded27; 14th Nov 2012 at 21:30.
