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Old 29th May 2011, 20:06   #1 (permalink)
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The danger of Lithium batteries, (in your home)

Lithium batteries

Air China A333 enroute on May 25th 2011, passenger camera battery catches fire

Incident: Air China A333 enroute on May 25th 2011, passenger camera battery catches fire

News: How to fight fires caused by Lithium batteries in portable electronic devices

Take a look att this training Video of Laptop fire :

http://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/2007Conference/files/Training_Videos/ThursPM/Videos/Laptop_master.wmv Crew Die As Plane Crashes In Dubai.( Lithium ??))

here is another thread in PPRuNe on subject !!!

Lithium battery related incidences

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Old 29th May 2011, 23:59   #2 (permalink)
 
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In oz, we were encouraged to hand in our yellow halon extinguishers in the 1980's; they were finally made illegal in the mid 1990's (dispensation excluded). I find it interesting the link to the FAA recommended method of extinguishing still refers to halon nearly a generation later. Is it still legal in other countries?
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Isn't the exclusion be given on the basis of efficiency i.e. it is given when no other product can do the job as efficiently? Hence you can have a halon extinguisher if you can prove that it is the only option for your case/operations.

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I'm getting back into model aeroplanes and this time electric-powered ones. They use lithium-based batteries extensively, and they are incredibly fussy about how they are charged & discharged initially, then under regular use and how far to discharge them, and the precautions needed when charging.
Check out Youtube, there's a bunch of videos of those batteries blowing up and catching on fire from excessive charge rates and so on.
You really have to be rather careful with them.
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This information has been around for quite a while and the more one looks the more one finds, factual or otherwise. Out of curiosity and when I have an opportunity I ask tradies what they think of the Li-on batteries in their cordless tools. Not one has ever mentioned fire, over heating or other battery-related problems (apart from lifetime and cost). I expect these people have no inclination to manage their batteries either. One pattern has emerged however; the high end stuff like Hilti & Festool is reported to last ages. Should be no surprises.
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I find it interesting the link to the FAA recommended method of extinguishing still refers to halon nearly a generation later. Is it still legal in other countries?

"Fire Control Systems in Civil Aviation

There are 4 types of Fire Control Systems on commercial aircraft: (1) lavatory bottle extinguishing system, (2) on board portable extinguishers, (3) cargo compartment systems and (4) engine fire protection systems.

All lavatory bottle systems, cargo compartment systems and engine fire protection systems being installed today use halon 1301. All on board portable extinguishers being sold today use halon 1211. The popular belief is that the likelihood of seeing a halon free new commercial aircraft in the next five or perhaps even ten years is remote. "


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I have never had a fire, but I did have a battery get so hot it melted a Sony laptop enough to make it not work and look kind of funny.
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