Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Tech Log
Reload this Page >

AF447 wreckage found

Wikiposts
Search
Tech Log The very best in practical technical discussion on the web

AF447 wreckage found

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 4th Apr 2011, 16:08
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CYUL
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Mark in CA writes...

"Has anyone read anything yet about how deep the wreckage is? The BBC report stated only that they had been searching as deep as 4000 meters, but didn't specify where the wreckage was found. Just curious."


Yes the wreck was located at roughly 3900 meters (12,800') of depth and they disclosed its position but with a 10 nm fudge factor.
Jet Jockey A4 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 16:39
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,569
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
they disclosed its position but with a 10 nm fudge factor.
Why the fudge factor no GPS? or sonar trianguarization?
lomapaseo is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 16:49
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Bournemouth UK
Age: 49
Posts: 862
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I take it that they don't wish to disclose the exact location as they don't want every tom dick and harry in the atlantic turning up there.
Sky Wave is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 19:02
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,226
Received 14 Likes on 8 Posts
As with Titanic, with human remains still inside, it constitutes a burial place.
pattern_is_full is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 19:24
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 7,197
Received 391 Likes on 242 Posts
Originally Posted by WillDAQ
So you're suggesting that Airbus has already discovered the site and removed anything incriminating before then allowing a search that it funded to find the wreckage.... fine example of Occam's Razor there.
More like Occam's Sledge Hammer.

While I am elated to hear that they have found what eluded them for so long, I worry that in the past year and a half, the tail section/CVR/FDR have had ample opportunity to get a little covered up with "stuff" and thus elude search. I hope I am wrong, as finding out the "why" is of interest to the air traveling public, as well as to professional aircrews who travel those long transoceanic routes.
Lonewolf_50 is online now  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 19:52
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London
Age: 68
Posts: 1,269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Now I understand why the Tech Log is the place where serious people debate the same subject, rather than look for ghosts, some of the above posts are appropriate for the rumour section....
vanHorck is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 20:00
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: EGSS
Age: 62
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is good news folks...If I had a catastrophic failure in the cruise and plummeted with my crew and pax to 120 under the ocean, I would hope they would search for my FDR no matter how long it took.
p7lot is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 20:01
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: us
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
vanHorck, precisely. The first AF 447 thread in rumours and news was closed because all manner of esoteric theories and explanations drifted into that thread. The techlog thread is now nearing 3,000 posts, most of them substantive, and many of them very informative postings by very knowledgeable people.
SaturnV is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 21:44
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Age: 42
Posts: 191
Received 10 Likes on 5 Posts
I am no conspiracy theorist but when I hear "Airbus" and "black box" spoken in the same sentence, this incident springs to mind: Air France Flight 296 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Last edited by Stu666; 4th Apr 2011 at 21:48. Reason: Link not working
Stu666 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 21:55
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CYUL
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Wasn't the fact that many C/Bs were pulled effecting some systems on the aircraft play a role in the crash.

In any case any pilot that takes a fully loaded plane down to 30 feet above a runway in an "airshow" in a high alpha low speed pass deserves to be hung!
Jet Jockey A4 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 23:04
  #31 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
With Airbus and Gov. Co. funding the opps. Any data recovered will be dubious to say the least. IMHO this debris field has already been picked clean,
"evidence" replaced and official findings written.

Call me a cynic if you will...but I AM.
Ladies & gentlemen, please do not feed the trolls.

I for one am happy about the discovery, and optimistic that helpful information will be found. Although the pictures remind me of what a beautiful machine it was.

Last edited by Jetdriver; 5th Apr 2011 at 01:05.
EnjoinThis is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2011, 23:29
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's a good thing

Enjointhis:
Amen. Let science and due diligence prevail. Congrats to AF and BEA etc. on seeing this thing out.
GHOTI is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 01:03
  #33 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: On the Beach
Posts: 3,336
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Congrats to the Americans who found the wreck.

When will our French friends thank the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution?
aterpster is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 01:40
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New York City
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
They will probably be thanked with a paycheck for services rendered.
MikeNYC is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 02:40
  #35 (permalink)  
742
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Color me cynical, but I still can not believe that NATO/French subs could not find pinging boxes for 30 days.

But I have no doubt that this time the paint on the FDR/CVR will be consistent.
742 is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 04:17
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Bath, UK
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AF296 has nothing to do with this, and the conspiracy theories over that are best left to run on by themselves. The assertion that a crash site at this depth can be tampered with, especially when world-leading authorities on deep oceanographic exploration are closely involved, is frankly ludicrous.
SummerLightning is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 07:05
  #37 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California Central Coast
Age: 75
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wreckage and sonar images

http://www.bea.aero/fr/enquetes/vol....ges.du.site.ph

I don't think anybody posted this yet apologies if I missed it. Don't know much about aircraft but a bit about sonar - that's a very flat seabed.
hefy_jefy is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 09:14
  #38 (permalink)  
PFR
Gamekeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: South East
Age: 61
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Arrow

Anywhere where photo's of the A/F elements of the a/c found on the sea floor have been posted? All I've seen is the video details running in the background of the CNN report.
PFR is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 09:28
  #39 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: melb
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Images in the media now.
mickk is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2011, 09:32
  #40 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: on the beach
Age: 68
Posts: 2,027
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I take it that they don't wish to disclose the exact location as they don't want every tom dick and harry in the atlantic turning up there.
I think that's highly unlikely, the wreckage is nearly 4000m down, what are they expecting....tours!

Bravo for finding the wreckage though. This will hopefully give the relatives and loved ones of those that perished some kind of closeure.
Evanelpus is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.