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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 09:50   #1 (permalink)
 
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Crash Fire Rescue Airport Categories

Could anybody explain the different categories for airports in regards to CFR (Crash Fire and Rescue).
I believe Cat 7 is for commercial jet aircraft and a Cat 4 is for emergency services that could be provided only for aircraft of the size of a Dash-8 or smaller.
A link or any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 10:23   #2 (permalink)
 
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google "boeing rescue fire fighting categories" and you will have a chart with the FAA and ICAO requirements. I don't think you will get very high cats in DRC/RDC.
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 10:52   #3 (permalink)
 
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Requirements vary according to aircraft type e.g the B757-200 has an RFFS of 7, the B757-300 an RFFS of 8, etc.
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 13:59   #4 (permalink)
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There is a chart to be used, Fire & rescue cat is proportional to the aircraft size (length)
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 14:25   #5 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the tip not exactly what I was looking for but helpful..
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 14:43   #6 (permalink)
 
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I think this is it!

Hi Is this what your after?

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP168.pdf Page 344 Has the table with the data on it.

PT

Ps chapter 8 contains everything concerning AFRS
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 17:11   #7 (permalink)
 
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If memory serves me correctly, ICAO Annexe 14 is the definitive document about CFR categories and many other things, but it's well set out in CAP 168 as already mentioned.

If I'm wrong I've no doubt someone will tell us.


I just looked it up -- ICAO sell Annexe 14 for $129. Your nearest airport should have a copy in its library..."should" is the operative word.
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 17:20   #8 (permalink)
 
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Cat 7 would accomodate a 757-200 or a 767-200 but not the -300 of either types (they need Cat 8). A330-200s, DC-8s, DC-10s need Cat 8 while 330-300, 747s, 764s, 777s and MD-11 need Cat 9. If I remember well, FZAA is only Cat 7 so SN Brussels and all the big cargo operators should not be operating there.

Cat 4 will only cater to medium turbo-props and light jets.
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 19:24   #9 (permalink)
 
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As a UK airport fire fighter, we take all the requirements from CAP168 chap8 as I posted early.
Any questions fire away
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Old 2nd Aug 2008, 22:34   #10 (permalink)
 
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Documents online

Here's a couple of links, enjoy.

http://dcaa.slv.dk:8000/icaodocs/Ann...%20Aerodromes/


http://www.boeing.com/commercial/air...rcraftarff.pdf
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 09:32   #11 (permalink)
 
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'The categories are based on the amount of extinguishing agent that the fire services can apply, and how fast they can apply it. Obviously larger aircraft = more fuel = bigger fire = more agent needed.

Here's a table: Aerodrome rescue and firefighting
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 10:54   #12 (permalink)
 
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Need FFR categories for Democratic Republic of the Congo Airports

All the info has been very helpful but does anybody know of a document that lists the RFF category assigned to the airports in DRC. I really need the RFF category for these airports in DRC:FZQA, FZEA, FZWA, FZUA, FZOA, FZIC, FZFD, FZFK, AND FZJH.
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 14:47   #13 (permalink)
 
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If you use the Jeppesen route manual, you simply find them in the airport directory in the first JEPP-Binder of the respective coverage area, along with the stated tables, including a list of corresponding a/c types. For other chart suppliers I donīt know, but I guess there should be something similar.
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 15:18   #14 (permalink)
 
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Otherwise they should be in your equivalent of the UK Air Pilot, ie the document published by the Civil Aviation authority in your country, listing all licensed airfields with details of each one.

This is the source of the information published by Jeppesen, and others like them.
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Old 5th Aug 2008, 09:16   #15 (permalink)
 
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Perfect


This is exactly what I need. Many thanks.
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