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Old 12th Feb 2007, 09:38   #1 (permalink)
 
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Talking Check your computer flight plan.

Hello everyone:
Just like to know what will you check on your computer flight plan before you go?what is the key elements?Thanks.
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Old 12th Feb 2007, 10:46   #2 (permalink)
 
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The waypoints, to avoid this
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Old 12th Feb 2007, 13:09   #3 (permalink)

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From the top - correct flt. no , registration, date and route. Finally, all waypoints & beraings between them and a check of the total distance that the FMC comes up with once the route is in.
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Old 12th Feb 2007, 13:39   #4 (permalink)
 
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Before you go you have to check:
Model, callsign, time and date(when it is valid), filed level (if you think you might get a lower level, you'll burn more fuel), reg, routing (just to make sure it's something you can expect, sometimes there are some new restrictions that prevent you from using the planned route, you end up burning more fuel), winds(if time and date's wrong, then your winds are wrong too),
EZFW (check with your own calculated ZFW), ELW/ETOW (check that neither exceeds your max), flight time, add. items..
What it all comes down to, after checking the above, is what amount of fuel do you need/want? Bringing plog fuel might get you in trouble if you don't do your preflight properly.
Just from the top of my head, I'm sure I've missed something...
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Old 12th Feb 2007, 14:48   #5 (permalink)
 
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It's a good idea to make sure that the plan is for the correct type of aircraft. I remember one hero getting airborne and then, some time later, noticing that where it should have said DC10 it said B707!
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Old 12th Feb 2007, 15:51   #6 (permalink)
 
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Or,as it happened to me ,going on a night stop flight with a fpl for a 737-700 and returning with a 737-300 one (just one wrong id letter)
I thought ..'strange', in the morning when the loadsheet ZFW was 'a bit' different than the fpl estimated one ,but when the f/o informed me that we are over the MLW the coin dropped...
we had'nt got enaugh time to check the return fpl ,before departing...so.
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Old 14th Feb 2007, 15:55   #7 (permalink)
 
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I am surprised that no-one so far has mentioned that the weather for the selected destination and alternate(s) is appropriate. Maybe that is because those whohave responded to date work for RYR
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Old 14th Feb 2007, 16:48   #8 (permalink)
 
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Top Bunk - Not really, as the weather's not on the flight plan

Items I always check :

Date and time the plan was generated, save getting airborne with yesterdays!

Flt num, a/c type and reg.

Expected payload compared to booked pax figure.

Which alternate we are using.

Cruise level and any expected changes en route.

Wind component compared to winds aloft chart.

Flight times.

All that only takes about 1 min and leaves a series of little ticks over my plog.
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Old 14th Feb 2007, 18:48   #9 (permalink)
 
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TopBunk: Yes, I am afraid you are correct. In Ryanair we never check the wx before we go...we just don't have enough time. Thunderstorms, RVR, turbulence who cares really? The show must go on. In fact we just show up at the gate...no checkin whatsoever.
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Old 14th Feb 2007, 19:11   #10 (permalink)
 
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The first computer flight plan I saw was one developed by R. Dixon Speas for the B707, circa 1974.
Dead accurate*, even better than what PanAmerican was using at the time.
So-called computer flight plans can lead you right and truly down the slipprey slope, IF you don't check 'em carefully.
*How accurate?
Plus or minus two minutes on an Atlantic crossing.
Dixon Speas had the old IBM computer system, and it worked like a charm, even if it did consume half the electric power in Buffalo, New York.
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