Engine severe damage/fire and Loss of system B
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Engine severe damage/fire and Loss of system B
For the 737NG you have a V1 cut Engine failure on ENG 2 and continue. You sort it out (Memory items and NNC) and then you lose HYD system B. Do you follow the QRH LOSS OF SYSTEM B or continue with ▼ENGINE FIRE or Engine Severe Damage or Separation <> continued▼
One Engine Inoperative Landing ( ) plan a flaps 15 landing
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Engine severe damage/fire and Loss of system B
Driver 170,
I'm not B737NG rated, but I can explain you how to cope with multiple failures.
First step Engine Fire/Flameout once safety altitude has been reached.
Actions in sequence:
Memory items
Engine Fire (ENG Flameout) Emergency CKL
After T/O CKL
ONE ENG OUT abnormal CKL (Normally called out from ENG FIRE/Flameout emerg CKL)
Once all these items have been covered You'll need to enter inside the QRH looking for Relevant Inoperative Items (EICAS/EICAM will show you action still pending).
So first you'll try to close your engine chapter and only then you'll move further to Loss of HYD SYS B. This last is an abnormal situation and has less priority over an engine Fire/Flameout.
Hope it will help.
Best regards.
Markos
I'm not B737NG rated, but I can explain you how to cope with multiple failures.
First step Engine Fire/Flameout once safety altitude has been reached.
Actions in sequence:
Memory items
Engine Fire (ENG Flameout) Emergency CKL
After T/O CKL
ONE ENG OUT abnormal CKL (Normally called out from ENG FIRE/Flameout emerg CKL)
Once all these items have been covered You'll need to enter inside the QRH looking for Relevant Inoperative Items (EICAS/EICAM will show you action still pending).
So first you'll try to close your engine chapter and only then you'll move further to Loss of HYD SYS B. This last is an abnormal situation and has less priority over an engine Fire/Flameout.
Hope it will help.
Best regards.
Markos
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Hi Markos. Cheers for chiming in 
All was great in the holding fix, then i heard the Yaw Damper click off and FLT CONT come up on the Master Caution System.
Thats where things got confusing because after reading through the NNC in the QRH for the ENG and loss of system B, i had to combine the 2 NNC together because of separate procedures ie using the alternate flap extension for loss of system B.
All was great in the holding fix, then i heard the Yaw Damper click off and FLT CONT come up on the Master Caution System.
Thats where things got confusing because after reading through the NNC in the QRH for the ENG and loss of system B, i had to combine the 2 NNC together because of separate procedures ie using the alternate flap extension for loss of system B.
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These are steps i take
At 400 feet AGL:
• PF verifies or selects HDG SEL and calls "STATE : MALFUNCTION." :
• PM must re-confirm the failure by crosschecking the engine indications out loud.
• PM will call out the specific failure e.g., "ENGINE FLAMEOUT, NUMBER 1/2 ENGINE." The PF shall confirm this.
• If memory items are applicable, the PF must call for the correct : QRH NN checklist by title, e.g., "ENGINE FIRE SEVERE : DAMAGE OR SEPARATION MEMORY ITEMS." :
• Above 400 feet AGL, state malfunction and complete memory items. At MFRA, Bug Up and retract flaps on schedule. If not completed before, call ATC with a PAN or a MAYDAY immediately after the Bug Up call.
• After the PM calls "FLAPS UP NO LIGHTS" the PF calls "LEVEL CHANGE, MCT" and engages the autopilot. The PM shall select LVL CHG and set MCT.
• The PF shall then call for the appropriate Non Normal checklist, e.g., "ENGINE FIRE SEVERE DAMAGE OR SEPARATION CHECKLIST" or "ENGINE FAILURE/SHUTDOWN CHECKLIST" and "MY RADIOS." The PM will commence the appropriate QRH non normal checklist.
At 400 feet AGL:
• PF verifies or selects HDG SEL and calls "STATE : MALFUNCTION." :
• PM must re-confirm the failure by crosschecking the engine indications out loud.
• PM will call out the specific failure e.g., "ENGINE FLAMEOUT, NUMBER 1/2 ENGINE." The PF shall confirm this.
• If memory items are applicable, the PF must call for the correct : QRH NN checklist by title, e.g., "ENGINE FIRE SEVERE : DAMAGE OR SEPARATION MEMORY ITEMS." :
• Above 400 feet AGL, state malfunction and complete memory items. At MFRA, Bug Up and retract flaps on schedule. If not completed before, call ATC with a PAN or a MAYDAY immediately after the Bug Up call.
• After the PM calls "FLAPS UP NO LIGHTS" the PF calls "LEVEL CHANGE, MCT" and engages the autopilot. The PM shall select LVL CHG and set MCT.
• The PF shall then call for the appropriate Non Normal checklist, e.g., "ENGINE FIRE SEVERE DAMAGE OR SEPARATION CHECKLIST" or "ENGINE FAILURE/SHUTDOWN CHECKLIST" and "MY RADIOS." The PM will commence the appropriate QRH non normal checklist.
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Reminders:
• The following sequence of events should be followed:
• Fly at the UP speed until above MSA
• Complete the appropriate QRH Non Normal checklist
• Complete the AFTER T/O checklist
• Decide on a best course of action using the P-I-O-S-E-E* model, do a NITS briefing and make a PA. (PIOSEE-NITS-PA).
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• The following sequence of events should be followed:
• Fly at the UP speed until above MSA
• Complete the appropriate QRH Non Normal checklist
• Complete the AFTER T/O checklist
• Decide on a best course of action using the P-I-O-S-E-E* model, do a NITS briefing and make a PA. (PIOSEE-NITS-PA).
*Problem-Information-Options-Select-Execute-Evaluate.
