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Old 1st Jun 2010, 10:10   #1 (permalink)
 
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Live Tracking Heathrow and UK Airspace.

I wonder if anyone has noted the new and updated Live tracking over UK Airspace... absolutely brilliant, before, it was only available for Amsterdam but now they are covering Milan, Paris etc... albiet with delay of 15 minutes for security purposes, however you can subscribe for a live feed with delay of 40 seconds..

heres the link Casper - Live Aircraft Tracking

This coupled with your Airband reciever and Heathrow Adbs Arrivals should be great fun...

enjoy !!!
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Old 1st Jun 2010, 10:22   #2 (permalink)
 
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Nothing like the real thing though.....
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Old 1st Jun 2010, 12:10   #3 (permalink)
 
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try this I think it is better as you don`t have the 15 mins delay just zoom in to your area
and you can watch them as they fly over you
I am staying near Ipswich and was watching all departures heading this way from Heathrow and Stansted last night

Watch Air Traffic - LIVE!


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Old 1st Jun 2010, 12:21   #4 (permalink)
 
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Will try it..
Other day I was tracking sia318 which passed over my house FL 4000, while the tracker was showing it over the channel, but the trail pretty accurate...


PS: Does that mean that the laws tracking over uk airspace have been relaxed.. as some time ago one could not do that, unless you have your own AIrNav system.
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Old 1st Jun 2010, 12:32   #5 (permalink)
 
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...unless you have your own AIrNav system.
Other virtual radars are available...
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Old 1st Jun 2010, 12:32   #6 (permalink)
 
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over my house FL 4000
400,000 feet! That's some climb performance!

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PS: Does that mean that the laws tracking over uk airspace have been relaxed..
No. Just means some people don't care about breaking the law!
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Old 1st Jun 2010, 12:58   #7 (permalink)
 
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I beg your pardon, I meant 4000 feet... its good to have GURUs around.
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Old 5th Jun 2010, 15:17   #8 (permalink)
 
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PS: Does that mean that the laws tracking over uk airspace have been relaxed.. as some time ago one could not do that, unless you have your own AIrNav system.
They way that I had it all explained to me was something similar to ...

Those Airnav/radar-box/whatever trackers are using the signals transmitted by the aircraft themselves; some/many of the signals include the lat/long of the aircraft, and the program uses this data to plot their position and track on a map. The nature of the aircraft transmission is that it is a 'broadcast' (that's the 'B' bit of the ADS-B acronym), so the signal is available to everybody - those who it is intended for, and those not.

On the other hand, the voice transmissions from ATC to aircraft, and vice-versa, are destined for each other (and, to a degree, other aircraft on a given frequency). They are not 'broadcast' and therefore not available to everybody.

Hence, it you re-broadcast (across the Internet) the audio from your ATC scanner, you are breaking the law. However, if you re-broadcast a signal which is already defined as being 'broadcast', you are not.
Having said that ... when you look at the Internet and see a map of (say ...) the UK airspace and see a number of 'blips' moving around, you're not actually seeing/hearing the bradcast signals, you're seeing the results of a computer program which is interpreting the signals.
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Old 5th Jun 2010, 19:08   #9 (permalink)
 
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I think you need a decision from Ofcom. In my book, those signals are being transmitted on bands for which authority is required to monitor them. What happens on an airband frequency when ATC "broadcasts" a transmission to all - e.g. "Heathrow broadcast, new QNH 1013"?? People are finding loopholes which don't exist/
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