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Old 15th August 2008, 03:37   #1 (permalink)
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QF Under the Microscope

No matter what, no matter why, any problem encountered by QF will hit the press (at least for now). The latest involves a quite normal delay + what I hope is not a normal panel loss +what is reported as a excessive spill of hydraulic fluid upon landing. Symtoms of a overaly active press or real problems? I will let you make up your own minds.

Another Qantas flight grounded
August 15, 2008 07:55am
A QANTAS flight from Brisbane to Melbourne was delayed by more than half an hour today due to a technical problem.
A passenger told the ABC that everyone was seated and the plane was ready for take-off when they were told they had to disembark because of an engineering problem.

The plane was due to fly out at 6am (AEST) but departed about 40 minutes later.

A Qantas spokeswoman said there was a minor technical issue but denied it posed any safety concerns.

"It was not a safety concern. The engineers were just checking the aircraft," she said.

This follows a string of incidents which began last month when an explosion ripped a hole in the fuselage of a Qantas jet en route from Hong Kong to Melbourne, forcing an emergency landing at Manila.

AN access panel fell off a Qantas jumbo jet on its way to Singapore from Melbourne today.

A Qantas spokeswoman said a routine check on the Boeing 747 after it arrived at Singapore this morning found a small engine access panel had become detached.

"It had absolutely no flight safety implications," the spokeswoman said.

The access panel, which was "non-structural", was replaced and the flight continued to London after a delay of just under six hours.

The incident is the latest in a series of aircraft problems for Qantas.



On Wednesday night, a Qantas Boeing 767 experienced a hydraulic failure which affected the plane's steering as it landed at Sydney airport.

The plane left a trail of hydraulic fluid as it touched down on its way from Melbourne, forcing the closure of the runway for 40 minutes while the spill was mopped up, The Australian reported.

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Old 15th August 2008, 07:06   #2 (permalink)
 
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A Qantas spokeswoman said a routine check on the Boeing 747 after it arrived at Singapore this morning found a small engine access panel had become detached.

"It had absolutely no flight safety implications," the spokeswoman said.
So innocent, a non structural panel, that could slice into a flap or stabiliser and cause major structural failure.

Does the QF spokeswoman have a LAME Licence or understand what CAN go wrong, go wrong, go wrong?

I think not.

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Old 15th August 2008, 08:24   #3 (permalink)
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"It had absolutely no flight safety implications," the spokeswoman said.
What if it had landed on some poor sod's head on the ground?
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Old 15th August 2008, 08:38   #4 (permalink)
 
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"What if it had landed on some poor sod's head on the ground?"

Then that wouldn't be a flight safety issue would it??
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Old 15th August 2008, 10:12   #5 (permalink)
 
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Here´s another one, supposedly a 737-800 at Karratha:

Workers stranded while Qantas fixes plane : thewest.com.au
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Old 15th August 2008, 12:36   #6 (permalink)
 
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I'm flying Melb > Bris on Wednesday, was thinking of driving instead but I dont have windscreen cover if I cant dodge the bits of QF aircraft raining out of sky .............
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Old 15th August 2008, 13:13   #7 (permalink)
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Come on fellows, get real! It was more than likely the oil filler access panel that may not have been locked properly (you can always blame that on the Asian MORs ).

Short circuit, are you really a LAME as you claim to be?
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So innocent, a non structural panel, that could slice into a flap or stabiliser and cause major structural failure.
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Old 15th August 2008, 14:05   #8 (permalink)
 
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Happens all over. The media causing more panic than necessary. Same happened last year in South Africa, after an aircraft lost an engine, every turnaround and small thing got blown out of proportion.
Infact we've had 2 incidents this last wednesday, which just made little news, check African Aviation forum...
Ironically one was a 737-400 depressurisation, on the same day Qantas grounded their 734s...
All the Qantas incidents is instead making news hear as well.
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Old 15th August 2008, 15:16   #9 (permalink)
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So innocent, a non structural panel, that could slice into a flap or stabiliser and cause major structural failure.

Does the QF spokeswoman have a LAME Licence or understand what CAN go wrong, go wrong, go wrong?
No doubt he asked somebody who does.

It's not a case of damage alone, its the layers of cheese in the pile.

The initial failure is quite common (everyday occurrence somewhere). The design of the aircraft has to consider it.

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Old 16th August 2008, 04:39   #10 (permalink)
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So innocent, a non structural panel, that could slice into a flap or stabiliser and cause major structural failure.
Your right HotDog, that could never happen, could it?

and oxy cylinders never explode either.

And a piece of foam can't damage space shuttle Columbia.

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