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Old 29th July 2008, 22:04   #1 (permalink)
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Check this out.

We've all 'rowed' a sailing vessel of some sort in a strong cross current.
Is this the same principle? Engines set at different thrust settings to compensate for a sidewind?


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Old 29th July 2008, 23:26   #2 (permalink)
 
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Well I'm not a pilot so can't answer your question, but I'm guessing the photo's there to show what appears to be more contrail and so more thrust, and the illusion of the contrails being perhaps blown by a crosswind as they appear to be not directly behind the direction of flight.

Well... if so, the contrails appear to be blowing right to left. The larger contrail seems to come from the aircraft's left engine, ie the one on the right of the picture. More thrust would be needed from the aircraft's right engine though, if it was doing as you suggest... so think its just an optical illusion.


However... it's still a very good question for any pilots out there?
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Old 30th July 2008, 00:23   #3 (permalink)
 
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Both engines will be at the same power setting (thrust). To compensate for a x wind all we do (or shall I say the Auto Pilot does!) is to set a heading into wind so our track over ground stays on course. Cross wind from the left, the nose will point left, thus giving a track over the ground to the next way point.

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Old 30th July 2008, 01:28   #4 (permalink)
 
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Obviously the 'Chem Trail generator' for the {Right Starboard} {injin} must be a MEL item ---better get her to the {Hanger}

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Old 30th July 2008, 11:31   #5 (permalink)
 
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The pesticide nozzles are slightly blocked on the stbd side. Serves them right for using an airliner for crop dusting. Show-offs.

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Is it overflying Fort Knox? If so, Pussy Galore's Flying Circus has done very well for itself since 'Goldfinger' if it can now afford a fleet of Boeing Airbuses.
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Old 31st July 2008, 13:50   #6 (permalink)
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The reason the chem.......contrails look different is this: the vortex under the wing flows outward and above the wing inward. This 'swirls' the vortex so that the outer part of the core flows up and the inner flows down. If you view obliquely like this, it can make the vortexes appear differently to one another. Having said that, I am not sure why there appears to be such a difference in the exhaust core of the engine. Again, viewed from another angle, it probably looks the same.
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Old 31st July 2008, 14:20   #7 (permalink)
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There's something not quite right about that photo - I'm not convinced it's genuine. The relative angles seem strange, and observation says that contrails normally start somewhat further behind the engines than is shown here, because it takes a finite amount of time and therefore distance for the core stream to cool down to the point where the water vapour condenses.

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Old 31st July 2008, 17:01   #8 (permalink)
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Very hard to tell the distances behind the engines that the trails start, because the photo is almost head-on and the aircraft so far away from the camera.

Looks genuine to me.

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