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Old 16th Dec 2006, 14:44   #1 (permalink)
 
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Condor B757-300 taking off with the Cockpit window kept open

Here you can see the photos:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5879226

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5878526

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5878461
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 14:54   #2 (permalink)
 
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Must have been a hot day
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 14:55   #3 (permalink)
 
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They have been known to pop open if not securely closed...distracting but not a flight safety issue..boeing has a good video of this in a 737 as well...done purposely to show it is noisy but otherwise a non-event
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 15:02   #4 (permalink)
 
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Likewise my Company showed this video as part of our refresher training. As stated, it is a non event apart from the startle factor from the noise.

I look at these photos and I do NOT say "Fools, they were so careless". I look at the photos and say "That could definitely happen to me!, I must make a mental note to be even more carefull performing the before start checklist"

Flight Deck Windows & Cockpit Door.....................Locked!
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 15:02   #5 (permalink)
 
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One of our 767's did a heavy high speed abort because the window wasn't locked shut. Brake damage and fuse plugs melting caused a lot of grief for the crew. We determined that if it happened again we would deal with it in the air because it can be closed in flight. Most malfunctions at high speed end up better by avoiding high speed aborts.
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 16:27   #6 (permalink)
 
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"For the want of a nail, the shoe was lost; for the want of a shoe the horse was lost; and for the want of a horse the rider was lost, being overtaken and slain by the enemy, all for the want of care about a horseshoe nail."

Benjamin Franklin
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 16:45   #7 (permalink)
 
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Why do you mention that "halfnut", did Benny Franklin have a DV window open on him just before V1
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 17:13   #8 (permalink)
 
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Wink

This happened to me about five years ago when I was a brand new F/O on the 737 in AMS, must have only had about 300 hrs TT at the time.

The training captain liked to have a smoke of his pipe on the turnaround, but on this occasion failed to check his DV window afterwards.

He was PF, and going through 120 kts the window slid back creating the most almighty racket! No drama though, he just said to me "ahhh, you take the controls would you old boy?" and turned to close the window!

A RTO would almost certainly have grounded us at that speed, what with melting plugs etc.
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 18:05   #9 (permalink)
 
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What is your problem?
A/C not capable of flying?
Any red lights on and bells ringing to justify a RTO?
Get a live!
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 18:53   #10 (permalink)
 
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Gotta get up earlier than that

Have a look at the angle of attack vanes.

Nice try though.

BS
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 18:56   #11 (permalink)
 
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Yepp.........

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Old 16th Dec 2006, 19:09   #12 (permalink)
 
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Cool

Have a closer look...

That's the shadow of the AoA vanes.

Look at the shadowing resulting from the a/c on the ground, the shadowing on the f/o's face.

All looks in perspective for me. If not, then a damn good fake.
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 19:59   #13 (permalink)
 
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Maybe he was just throwing his McDonalds bag out of the window
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 23:11   #14 (permalink)
 
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I'm surprised no one has posted this link:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_87KqdX7PE
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 02:37   #15 (permalink)
 
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Isn't Photoshop a wonderful thing
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 03:16   #16 (permalink)


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Maybe he was just throwing his McDonalds bag out of the window
No way! Couldn't have got the McDonalds through security
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 07:51   #17 (permalink)
 
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Have a closer look...
It also looks as though the nose oleo is fully extended... now if someone photoshopped that, they deserve a prize...
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 12:33   #18 (permalink)
 
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The nose wheels don't seem to be spinning, the bolts are clearly and sharply visible. I'm fairly sure the braking action doesn't happen until gear is selected up.
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 13:25   #19 (permalink)
 
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The nose wheels don't seem to be spinning, the bolts are clearly and sharply visible.
Not unusual for high shutter speeds, don't you think?
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 13:53   #20 (permalink)
 
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Didn't know the 757 had nose wheel brakes....

Only in the air..........
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