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Old 10th June 2006, 00:36   #1 (permalink)
 
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IL-76 and IL-78 to operate in US

Dear all,
Found these two articles, thought they might be of interest
http://www.heralddemocrat.com/articl...ews/news07.txt
and
http://www.desastres.org/noticias.asp?id=06062006-1
Your comments and observations please, learned gentlemen and ladies
Be lucky
David
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Old 10th June 2006, 00:49   #2 (permalink)
 
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Would absolutely love to see !

Glasnost - fast forward 2006 - at its best, I suppose.
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Old 10th June 2006, 00:58   #3 (permalink)
 
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Late last year, a company named North American Aviation in Roanoke, Texas, advertised for IL76/78 crews. The airplanes were to be based in Lakeland, FL, and flown on contract to the Department of Defence for inflight refueling training for the Navy.

Had a chat with a nice guy about it. He was expecting 4 airplanes eventually. The part that surprised me was that he'd found four captains in the USA with IL76/78 experience who were US citizens.

And you think there's a pilot shortage...
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Old 10th June 2006, 01:42   #4 (permalink)
 
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May be conected ??

N78GF issued to IL-78 c/n 0083485558 to Air Support Systems.
A check on the FAA site -:
AIR SUPPORT SYSTEMS LLC
Street 113 BARKSDALE PROFESSIONAL CTR
City NEWARK
State DELAWARE
Zip Code 19711-3258
County NEW CASTLE
Country UNITED STATES
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Old 10th June 2006, 02:32   #5 (permalink)

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I've no way of knowing if it's connected, Dino, but at the sake of stating facts perhaps already well known by those here, Delaware is a convenient place for incorporation in the States for legal reasons. Many Corporations listed there rarely operate in that state, but in fact elsewhere...
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Old 10th June 2006, 05:11   #6 (permalink)
 
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Well N78GF is operating in the US:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N78GF
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Old 10th June 2006, 10:21   #7 (permalink)
 
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Keflavik - Fort Worth 2 hours 47 mins. Thats a cracking cruise speed for big freighter. Its a long time since I did hard sums and adding up at school but that doesn't appear to be correct?
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Old 10th June 2006, 11:57   #8 (permalink)
 
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Noise limits

I thought all original ( IE not PS-90 engined) IL-76/78 aircraft were banned from US air space as they are not CAT3 noise and emissions compliant.
I suppose the same loophole that fits the B.737-200 (AKA CT-43A) aircraft EG&G fly the famous "Janet" flights out of Las Vagas McCarren to mysterious points in the Nevada Test Range fits this as well.
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Old 10th June 2006, 12:10   #9 (permalink)
 
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Keflavik - Fort Worth 2 hours 47 mins. Thats a cracking cruise speed for big freighter. Its a long time since I did hard sums and adding up at school but that doesn't appear to be correct?
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Thats the time from when it entered US airspace to landing at Fort Worth, not the total route time.
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Old 10th June 2006, 12:39   #10 (permalink)
 
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theres something in this months airforces mag about this!
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Old 12th June 2006, 13:04   #11 (permalink)
 
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IL76 are available now with new engines. See the latest Volga Dnepr addition (VDA)..
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Old 12th June 2006, 18:05   #12 (permalink)
 
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Yep - it seems that Volga's newly-engined 76 is at PIK today flying to India.
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Old 13th June 2006, 06:52   #13 (permalink)
 
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TheAvGasDinosaur:

The B-737-200s, which had white paint with red stripes at LAS, fly to at least two locations in Nevada, known as "Dreamland", although the two locations do not exist. I doubt that they log much actual IMC experience.

Any military pilot at Red Flag who mistakenly enters the limits of "Dreamland" (if it exists) is debriefed and leaves the exercise almost immediately for his home base.
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Old 17th June 2006, 19:18   #14 (permalink)
 
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I think the two destinations are Groom Lake (KTKM) and Tonopah Test Range (KTNX),but how do these series 200 equivalent B.737s get past U.S. noise regs ??At least Las Vegas McCarran (KLAS) is in conventional airspace and therefore subject to normal rules and regulations.
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