BATIK air plane collides with....
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BATIK air plane collides with....
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Another incident in Indonesia? It shouldn't surprise anyone. I am surprised at the extent of the damage to the ATR though. Lucky that everyone got out unhurt. The question is how can any Lion-owned airline from not be blacklisted from international flying without having passed an extensive ICAO audit? The question of course is rhetorical, as we all know what the answer is. 
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In my opinion;
I was impressed with the infrastructure of a large Indonesian airline when I visited.
Having flown with some Indo's truly shocked at their standards and ability. No CRM, no communication, not following SOP's, etc
I was impressed with the infrastructure of a large Indonesian airline when I visited.
Having flown with some Indo's truly shocked at their standards and ability. No CRM, no communication, not following SOP's, etc
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Considering I was just there this last Saturday, a bit unnerving. Generally, I had good ATC services provided and noted nothing particularly unsafe about operations there, except the lack of a parallel taxiway does impose severe constraints on traffic handling due to backtracks and turnarounds. I suspect that this ground layout was a factor.
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Considering I was just there this last Saturday, a bit unnerving. Generally, I had good ATC services provided and noted nothing particularly unsafe about operations there, except the lack of a parallel taxiway does impose severe constraints on traffic handling due to backtracks and turnarounds. I suspect that this ground layout was a factor.
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Well I fly in indo domestically and have personally been cleared for take off with a company 737 sitting with their nose on the runway side of the stop line after landing and not clearing the runway. Both the indo pilots here don't seem to know what clearing the runway is and also the tower controllers don't seem to know either. Most of my fellow pilots here have had similar occurances here on a regular basis.
I was cleared to land once with an ATR on the runway. We decided to go-around of course and let ATC get themselves composed. WIHH can indeed be quite a scary at times, had a Fokker 50 try and mount us one time to which ATC were oblivious, I gave up trying to explain the problem and just told them we were orbiting to position number 2 - thankfully we were visual with good vis, Jakarta smog can make life inordinately more difficult at times.
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So, not a blanket endorsement of their services but I have had much, much worse.
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LOL, not surprised at some of the stories here. We were flying the 24 ILS app, established on LOC and GS when ATC tells us we are 15nm off track! We got a bit confused, so I straight away checked ILS frequencies, GPS position and track, compass and then I asked the ATC controller to confirm what he had just said and that the radio call was meant for our aircraft reg. He started yelling at me to go-around and according to him I was 15nm left of track and yes it was for our a/c. Luckily at that moment we broke visual. Runway 24 was dead centre in front of us. I then told him, " yes I am left of LOC and my copilot is right of LOC are we are visual and actually finals 24". He changed his tone and cleared us to land.
