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Another lionair overrun

Old 8th Aug 2013, 00:01
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Sorry, I call BS. How would hitting a cow on the runway cause it to overrun? Even if it hit the MLG and took out brakes on one side it the 73 should still stop fine. Does it seem odd to anyone that the pilot involved is making statements this early? Arse covering by Lion air for sure!

Wait for the report, blah blah but I reckon we'll find that the overrun was caused by something else and the cows were grazing off the end of the runway and were hit by the plane then.
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 00:22
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Sorry, I call BS. How would hitting a cow on the runway cause it to overrun? Even if it hit the MLG and took out brakes on one side it the 73 should still stop fine. Does it seem odd to anyone that the pilot involved is making statements this early? Arse covering by Lion air for sure!
I am with you on this one. They would rather blame the cow than the pilot/ATC/Lion. Normal for animals and people to wander on to the runway is not a acceptable fact considering an airport such as Biak which handles 737s. Up in the mountains where the Porters operate, maybe.

What's also interesting is why hasn't the DGCA done a safety audit of Lion after the string of accidents? Their AOC should be hanging on a thread by the second/third incident especially at the frequency Lion does it at! And let's not talk about the poor service of Lion Air. But in most Asian countries, I guess DGCA stands for Deposit Gifts Cash and Ayams!
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 04:46
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How lion air even retains an AOC is beyond belief but I guess it's all about the greasy wheels of corruption again..Bang Bang???
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Old 8th Aug 2013, 06:05
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Easy on the G&T guys, look at the photo on post #19 (if that is the correct one ) , clearly this 737 is besides the runway, not at the end of it.

It is not the fisrt time aircraft land on cows, ( AF330,in Lagos comes to mind)
For me it looks more an airport fence problem than a Lionair one. But let's wait and see for more facts.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 04:41
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Sigh...we have idiots casting aspersions and irresponsible remarks before checking up the facts. If you want to put in some adverse comments, do try to look up the facts from other sources before putting your foot in your mouth.
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Old 11th Aug 2013, 16:36
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The amazing thing about these cases is that prevent land animals -wild or domestic- access the airport area does not depend on sophisticated technology, but only a few kilometers of fencing and adequate monitoring.
Something that in the XXI century should be available to countries like Indonesia, aspire to leave the Third World label to embark resolutely on the select group of emerging economies in the Asia-Pacific arc.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 06:02
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final report by Indonesia NTSC is out:

http://www.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_av...t%20PK-LKH.pdf

Short report: Airport perimeter fences were found to be broken (up to 500m stretches). Runway incursion. Cows getting bigger, suddenly. Impact 550m down the runway, at 120 kts. Remains of 2 cows found on left main landing gear. Hydraulics damaged, ineffective brake repsonse. A/c comes to a stop 2,100m down the rwy, after veering off to the left shoulder

Reversers and spoilers were deployed on touchdown, cavok, uneventful flight, no indications of unstable approach, airworthy aircraft, experienced pilots (both local, so no need to speculate about p2f here...).

Two pax suffered a sprained ankle after they decided to exit through the right over wing emergency exit, without being instructed to do so

Other pax disembark uneventully through right fwd and aft doors, using stairs, as instructed by PIC

recommendations: fix the fence



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