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Funny thing happened when they didn't pay the bills
From: Kanokporn Sirirat
Sent: 19 November 2014 12:01
To: Cabin Crew; Flight Operations
Cc: Crew control; Operations Control Center
Subject: LEON system
Dear crew,
I would like to inform you of LEON system. Base on the information crew control has at the moment, we cannot login into LEON. We can inform only the crew who assigned to perform their duty day by day.
Please accept our apology for your inconvenience. Thank you for your understanding. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact crew control.
Best Regards,
Kanokporn S(Gung)
QA
Sent: 19 November 2014 12:01
To: Cabin Crew; Flight Operations
Cc: Crew control; Operations Control Center
Subject: LEON system
Dear crew,
I would like to inform you of LEON system. Base on the information crew control has at the moment, we cannot login into LEON. We can inform only the crew who assigned to perform their duty day by day.
Please accept our apology for your inconvenience. Thank you for your understanding. Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact crew control.
Best Regards,
Kanokporn S(Gung)
QA
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China cancels route authority
If you are supposed to be running an airline and your main routes are cancelled by the host country don't you think it would be a priority to find out why and correct the problem? Not these boys, they cannot do anything wrong therefore they simply don't know what happened. There are a lot of hogs being washed in Bangkok.
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More JAA BS
Dear
*Jet
*Asia
*Team,
*
The
* delay
* of
* November
* salary
* payment
* was
* caused
* by
* the
* lack
* of
* payments
* from
* Indian
* Hajj
* and
* permits
* for
* November
* and
* the
* first
* week
* of
* December
* from
* Civil
* Aviation
* Administration
* of
* China.
* We
* plan
* on
* paying
* 50%
* of
* November
* salaries
* next
* week
* and
* the
* remainder
*the
*following
*week.
*
As
*I
*mentioned
*before
*both
*the
*causes
*of
*our
*problems
*were
*unforeseen
*and
*we
*did
* not
*have
*time
*to
*react.
*Now
*that
*it
*has
*been
*a
*month
*we
*have
*had
*time
*to
*maneuver
*and
*have
*a
* solid
*plan
*to
*recover.
*
*
We
*have
*managed
*to
*confirm
*the
*following
*business;
*
• Bangkok-*‐Jakarta-*‐Bangkok
*4
*times
*per
*week
* • Bangkok-*‐
* Jeddah
* –
* Bangkok
* 2
* times
* per
* week
* scheduled
* 1
* time
* per
* week
*
charter
*(Starting
*mid-*‐January)
* • Bangkok
*–
*LHW-*‐
*Bangkok
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Bangkok
*–
*Tianjin-*‐
*Bangkok
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Bangkok
*–
*Shenyang-*‐
*Bangkok
*1
*time
*per
*week
*
* • Bangkok-*‐
*Tokyo-*‐
*Bangkok
*4
*times
*per
*week
* • Phuket
*–
*Shenyang-*‐
*Phuket
*2
*times
*per
*week
* • Phuket
*–
*Tianjin-*‐
*Phuket
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Phuket
*–
*LHW-*‐
*Phuket
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Continue
*the
*UN
*operation
*between
*Pakistan
*and
*Africa
*
As
*you
*can
*see
*our
*business
*will
*be
*back
*on
*track
*starting
*this
*month.
*In
*fact
*we
*will
* be
*flying
*more
*than
*we
*ever
*did
*before.
*
*
I
* ask
* you
* not
* to
* judge
* our
* company
* or
* where
* we
* are
* heading
* based
* on
* what
* is
* happening
*right
*now
*but
*on
*what
*is
*to
*come.
*
*
We
*are
*now
*flying
*scheduled
*flights
*to
*NRT,
*JED,
*CGK,
*and
*will
*launch
*TSN
*and
*SHE
*in
* January.
*This
*is
*a
*great
*accomplishment
*that
*will
*help
*us
*continue
*to
*remain
*competitive.
*We
*will
* also
*be
*adding
*a
*second
*767-*‐300ER
*to
*our
*fleet
*in
*the
*next
*60
*days.
*
*
I
* know
* and
* understand
* that
* things
* are
* very
* difficult
* without
* timely
* paychecks.
* I
* am
* very
* aware
* of
* how
* important
* it
* is
* for
* all
* of
* us
* that
* things
* go
* back
* to
* normal
* as
* soon
* as
* possible.
* The
*entire
*management
*team
*is
*working
*very
*hard
*to
*stabilize
*things
*as
*soon
*as
*possible.
*I
*expect
* that
*as
*we
*enter
*peak
*season
*in
*late
*December,
*things
*will
*get
*much
*better.
*
*
Please
*hang
*in
*there
*as
*we
*are
*almost
*out
*of
*this
*difficult
*period
*and
*the
*worst
*of
*it
*is
* behind
*us.
*We
*have
*a
*plan
*and
*we
*have
*the
*business,
*now
*we
*just
*need
*to
*execute.
Jacob
*Saba
* President
*
Jet Asia Airways Company Limited
Level 29, The Offices at Centralworld Suite# 2914 and 2952, 999/9 Rama I Rd., Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330 Thailand Tel: +66(0)2207-2543 Fax: +66(0)2207-2525 Email: [email protected]
Note the CEO still cannot realize he is the problem. His amazing plea is that the unpaid employees not judge him by his past performance, but that they believe in his hollow promises.
The bottom line is that any pilot who flies for JAA is not a professional. By definition professionals are paid for their work and if you are not paid that is defined as charity or slavery.
Enjoy it boys and keep believing this garbage they are feeding you. I'm sure there are several carriers who would like to use your services for free also. In your spare time perhaps you could stop by the office and take out the garbage and shine Jacob's shoes
*Jet
*Asia
*Team,
*
The
* delay
* of
* November
* salary
* payment
* was
* caused
* by
* the
* lack
* of
* payments
* from
* Indian
* Hajj
* and
* permits
* for
* November
* and
* the
* first
* week
* of
* December
* from
* Civil
* Aviation
* Administration
* of
* China.
* We
* plan
* on
* paying
* 50%
* of
* November
* salaries
* next
* week
* and
* the
* remainder
*the
*following
*week.
*
As
*I
*mentioned
*before
*both
*the
*causes
*of
*our
*problems
*were
*unforeseen
*and
*we
*did
* not
*have
*time
*to
*react.
*Now
*that
*it
*has
*been
*a
*month
*we
*have
*had
*time
*to
*maneuver
*and
*have
*a
* solid
*plan
*to
*recover.
*
*
We
*have
*managed
*to
*confirm
*the
*following
*business;
*
• Bangkok-*‐Jakarta-*‐Bangkok
*4
*times
*per
*week
* • Bangkok-*‐
* Jeddah
* –
* Bangkok
* 2
* times
* per
* week
* scheduled
* 1
* time
* per
* week
*
charter
*(Starting
*mid-*‐January)
* • Bangkok
*–
*LHW-*‐
*Bangkok
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Bangkok
*–
*Tianjin-*‐
*Bangkok
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Bangkok
*–
*Shenyang-*‐
*Bangkok
*1
*time
*per
*week
*
* • Bangkok-*‐
*Tokyo-*‐
*Bangkok
*4
*times
*per
*week
* • Phuket
*–
*Shenyang-*‐
*Phuket
*2
*times
*per
*week
* • Phuket
*–
*Tianjin-*‐
*Phuket
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Phuket
*–
*LHW-*‐
*Phuket
*1
*time
*per
*week
* • Continue
*the
*UN
*operation
*between
*Pakistan
*and
*Africa
*
As
*you
*can
*see
*our
*business
*will
*be
*back
*on
*track
*starting
*this
*month.
*In
*fact
*we
*will
* be
*flying
*more
*than
*we
*ever
*did
*before.
*
*
I
* ask
* you
* not
* to
* judge
* our
* company
* or
* where
* we
* are
* heading
* based
* on
* what
* is
* happening
*right
*now
*but
*on
*what
*is
*to
*come.
*
*
We
*are
*now
*flying
*scheduled
*flights
*to
*NRT,
*JED,
*CGK,
*and
*will
*launch
*TSN
*and
*SHE
*in
* January.
*This
*is
*a
*great
*accomplishment
*that
*will
*help
*us
*continue
*to
*remain
*competitive.
*We
*will
* also
*be
*adding
*a
*second
*767-*‐300ER
*to
*our
*fleet
*in
*the
*next
*60
*days.
*
*
I
* know
* and
* understand
* that
* things
* are
* very
* difficult
* without
* timely
* paychecks.
* I
* am
* very
* aware
* of
* how
* important
* it
* is
* for
* all
* of
* us
* that
* things
* go
* back
* to
* normal
* as
* soon
* as
* possible.
* The
*entire
*management
*team
*is
*working
*very
*hard
*to
*stabilize
*things
*as
*soon
*as
*possible.
*I
*expect
* that
*as
*we
*enter
*peak
*season
*in
*late
*December,
*things
*will
*get
*much
*better.
*
*
Please
*hang
*in
*there
*as
*we
*are
*almost
*out
*of
*this
*difficult
*period
*and
*the
*worst
*of
*it
*is
* behind
*us.
*We
*have
*a
*plan
*and
*we
*have
*the
*business,
*now
*we
*just
*need
*to
*execute.
Jacob
*Saba
* President
*
Jet Asia Airways Company Limited
Level 29, The Offices at Centralworld Suite# 2914 and 2952, 999/9 Rama I Rd., Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330 Thailand Tel: +66(0)2207-2543 Fax: +66(0)2207-2525 Email: [email protected]
Note the CEO still cannot realize he is the problem. His amazing plea is that the unpaid employees not judge him by his past performance, but that they believe in his hollow promises.
The bottom line is that any pilot who flies for JAA is not a professional. By definition professionals are paid for their work and if you are not paid that is defined as charity or slavery.
Enjoy it boys and keep believing this garbage they are feeding you. I'm sure there are several carriers who would like to use your services for free also. In your spare time perhaps you could stop by the office and take out the garbage and shine Jacob's shoes
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JAA promise
In a wonderful twist of fate Benecio pled with on of the captains who quit because he was not paid to fly a flight. Benecio's pitiful request was, "if you don't fly the flight we will have to cancel and it will cost us millions of dollars."
Let me break it down so that even an unpaid pilot can understand this.
JAA does not pay salaries.
Pilot quits because his salary is not paid.
Benecio asks unpaid former JAA pilot to fly a flight.
Former pilot refuses.
Benecio tries to get former pilot to sympathise with the plight of the company's loss of revenue.
Former pilot is still not paid and refuses to fly further flights without compensation.
Bottom line JAA management would rather cancel flights because of the lack of pilots than pay them.
Conclusion: JAA is not an airline. People do not matter. Safety? Competence at upper management is non existent.
Watch the boys rack up more debt and mysteriously disappear with all the remaining assets.
Let me break it down so that even an unpaid pilot can understand this.
JAA does not pay salaries.
Pilot quits because his salary is not paid.
Benecio asks unpaid former JAA pilot to fly a flight.
Former pilot refuses.
Benecio tries to get former pilot to sympathise with the plight of the company's loss of revenue.
Former pilot is still not paid and refuses to fly further flights without compensation.
Bottom line JAA management would rather cancel flights because of the lack of pilots than pay them.
Conclusion: JAA is not an airline. People do not matter. Safety? Competence at upper management is non existent.
Watch the boys rack up more debt and mysteriously disappear with all the remaining assets.
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Are they paying on time now ? Have they back paid what they owe their pilots ?
Last edited by flying apprentice; 24th Feb 2015 at 07:43. Reason: Stupid autocorrect
According to JAA website the FO requirement's,
Applicants
•should possess the following attributes: 20-45 years of age
• Thai nationality
• Minimum of 3 years’ Experience as a Pilot (Senior First Officer)
- OR -
•Graduated from Thai DCA Approved Training Organization (ATO)
• At least a total of 1,500 flight hours with a minimum of 500 hours on type (B767) and current in the past 12 months (as Senior First Officer, On type)
- OR -
•Less than 1,500 hours total time with a minimum of 500 hours on type (B767) and current in the past 12 months (as Junior First Officer, On type)
- OR -
•Minimum total of 200 flight hours with ICAO Commercial pilot license (CPL), Instrument Rating and Multi-engine (aeroplane) current in the past 12 months (Junior First Officer, Non type)
• Must have Air Transport Pilot License (ATPL) with Type rating in a commercial jet or military fixed wing experience (as Senior First Officer)
• TOEIC 650+ and ICAO English Proficiency Level 4 (minimum)
• Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate.
• No history of Accidents/Incidents within 3 years
• For on type B767 pilots, your last flight on a B767 must be within 1 year from the date of application.
Applicants
•should possess the following attributes: 20-45 years of age
• Thai nationality
• Minimum of 3 years’ Experience as a Pilot (Senior First Officer)
- OR -
•Graduated from Thai DCA Approved Training Organization (ATO)
• At least a total of 1,500 flight hours with a minimum of 500 hours on type (B767) and current in the past 12 months (as Senior First Officer, On type)
- OR -
•Less than 1,500 hours total time with a minimum of 500 hours on type (B767) and current in the past 12 months (as Junior First Officer, On type)
- OR -
•Minimum total of 200 flight hours with ICAO Commercial pilot license (CPL), Instrument Rating and Multi-engine (aeroplane) current in the past 12 months (Junior First Officer, Non type)
• Must have Air Transport Pilot License (ATPL) with Type rating in a commercial jet or military fixed wing experience (as Senior First Officer)
• TOEIC 650+ and ICAO English Proficiency Level 4 (minimum)
• Valid Class 1 Medical Certificate.
• No history of Accidents/Incidents within 3 years
• For on type B767 pilots, your last flight on a B767 must be within 1 year from the date of application.
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JAA lies
How many "New Management" teams have they hired?
As long as Jacob and Ibrahim are on the property there will be no changes.
Safety will be non existent and professionalism who cares?
Go for it, work for free, risk your license, and never have a chance of working for a reputable company.
As long as Jacob and Ibrahim are on the property there will be no changes.
Safety will be non existent and professionalism who cares?
Go for it, work for free, risk your license, and never have a chance of working for a reputable company.