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Old 20th Mar 2012, 22:54   #1 (permalink)
 
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Singapore airlaw

Hi,

Anyone has any good books/website/question bank to prepare for the Singapore ATPL air law exam?
Got hired by an airline there and applied to get a a CAAS ATPL based on my JAA ATPL. Any idea on how much time it takes?

cheers

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Old 21st Mar 2012, 06:05   #2 (permalink)
 
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Try and get onto a cadet pilot, they all have a blue booklet with the exam questions. It's based on the UK system and simply learning by rote. It should only take two or three days of study to get on speed. Don't be too casual though, keep it serious, they have a negative marking system, any wrong answer is worth double leaving it blank. It was very old fashioned and not relevant, glider symbols, smoke puffs, lights etc. They also have a very odd little mathematical bearing and distance set of calculations. My experience of this exam is over 10 years ago but I don't think it's changed much.
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Old 21st Mar 2012, 06:51   #3 (permalink)

 
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I thought your employer would've provide you the books but
any bugger in SQ or JS or TG could probably pass them on to
you.

Purely a rote exam. Has stuff like firing a flare from cockpit on
final, dumbbells on runways, and working out relative angles
of nav lights. AFAIR there are a hundred or so questions you
simply memorise.

They have that silly bloody neg marking system as Mr George
said, so leave any question blank if you're not 100% sure of
the answer.

Heard also CAAS now imposes a Human Fcukups exam but I
can't say with certainty.
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 07:45   #4 (permalink)
 
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Too funny...I remember that exam with much fondness...and I am still waiting for my scarf and goggles (the CAA should hand them out for passing!) Very pistol questions, there was even one question on identifying a glider's nav lights in the dark...
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 13:03   #5 (permalink)

 
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Yeh and working out whether you're gonna hit him or not.


FO - sir, I have calculated the relative bearing of that glider
out there in dark and I believe we will slam into his red light
in 6 seconds.

Capt - sure about that? I didn't think gliders had navlights.

FO - yes sir I'm pretty sure...(kerboo-oo-oo-oong!).....about it.

Capt - looks like you were right then. Now where's that Very
pistol? We might have some nose damage....
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 14:03   #6 (permalink)
 
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Someone on my course failed it but I won't mention his name Luis
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 14:37   #7 (permalink)
 
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there's not much to it, as stated before any SQ or tiger jock can help you, once you are in SIN talk to an FO or expat pilot, plenty of personal literature and notes on it, you need a week to prepare it.
Good luck!!!
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 19:52   #8 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the replies,

I am actually not in SIN yet and wanted to prepare for that exam already to concentrate on the rest once there.
If anyone has anything regarding that exam you can share then feel free to PM me!
Although I have a JAA ATPL, someone told me I might even have to take a human performance exam! Anyone knows about that?

I am very unfamiliar with firing flares from a nav light equipped glider at night so I suppose I have some studying to do!

Cheers,
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Old 22nd Mar 2012, 21:57   #9 (permalink)
 
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It all depends on your experience level. I can only refer to the Australian ATPL, for Captains with heavy command time they gave us a straight swop (apart from the Air-Law exam). The poor Co-Pilots I joined with, although they held the same ATPL, without heavy command time, had to sit the 'Human Remains' examination, as they called it. It was a sore point with them and none of them found it easy.I remember seeing one with a colour diagram of the inner workings of the human lung, when I said he looked like a bloody medical student, I realised from his expression that my life was in mortal danger. I am pleased to report we are still good friends and he is now a 744 Captain with All Nippon Cargo. It placed a lot of pressure on them for no valid reason. The world goes around on bull-shit these days.
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Thanks a lot sl, Sent you a PM!
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