Which Chinese Airlines you like?
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Which Chinese Airlines you like?
According to the statistics, there are around 20 Airlines in China are now hiring foreign captains, such a huge market!!!
Among the below Airlines, which do you prefer?
Air China - A330 Captain
Air China Cargo - B747-400 Captain & Non-type rated Captain
Beijing Capital Airlines - A320 Captain
Chengdu Airines - A320 Captain
Hainan Airlines - A330/B767 Captain
Juneyao Airlines - A320 Captain
Okay Airways - B737-300/NG Captain
SF Airlines - B757 Captain
Shenzhen Airlines - A320/B737NG Captain
Sichuan Airlines - A330 Captain
Spring Airlines - A320 Captain
Tianjin Airlines - A320 Captain
Xiamen Airlines - B737 EFIS & NG Captain
Yangtze River Express - B747-400 Captain
Please give some comment or post other jobs vacancies you know.
Thank you!
Among the below Airlines, which do you prefer?
Air China - A330 Captain
Air China Cargo - B747-400 Captain & Non-type rated Captain
Beijing Capital Airlines - A320 Captain
Chengdu Airines - A320 Captain
Hainan Airlines - A330/B767 Captain
Juneyao Airlines - A320 Captain
Okay Airways - B737-300/NG Captain
SF Airlines - B757 Captain
Shenzhen Airlines - A320/B737NG Captain
Sichuan Airlines - A330 Captain
Spring Airlines - A320 Captain
Tianjin Airlines - A320 Captain
Xiamen Airlines - B737 EFIS & NG Captain
Yangtze River Express - B747-400 Captain
Please give some comment or post other jobs vacancies you know.
Thank you!
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Gone fishing ??
Try this
Pilot Jobs in China - China Aviation Recruitment
But then if you're in China, you should know this website already.
What is it that you REALLY want to know.....
Pilot Jobs in China - China Aviation Recruitment
But then if you're in China, you should know this website already.
What is it that you REALLY want to know.....
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Hey Guys, trying to get info from somebody currently at Hainan through VOR Holdings. I am interested in applying for the non-rated 330 Captain position. I was told that you have to fly as a First Officer for about 2 months. Is this the case or are you stuck as a F/O? Also, as far as being based outside of Beijing, is it actually so or is it advertised just to get you to come?
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I'd check on the actual requirements before applying for the Hainan 320/ 330 upgrade. When China Southern tried it, Caac imposed a requirement of 500 hours domestic flying before release to long haul operations- something CS could not facilitate. The program was subsequently stillborn.
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Some airlines, like Hainan, you might find yourself jumpseating and flying as an FO for over 300 hours for a Type-rated Captain position. The 320-330 deal at Hainan is new, and there is a real good chance they haven't sorted out the details with their local CAAC. God knows what requirements the CAAC will impose upon you.
This place is chaos in a lot of ways. The way the CAAC deals with Air China in Beijing, the the rules they impose, are vastly different than a different arm of the CAAC will impose on a different airline somewhere else. HTF knows what you will go thru if you apply for this position. The management at Hainan probably doesn't know either, and they will be using the first few as guinea pigs to find out.
Good luck to those who try.
This place is chaos in a lot of ways. The way the CAAC deals with Air China in Beijing, the the rules they impose, are vastly different than a different arm of the CAAC will impose on a different airline somewhere else. HTF knows what you will go thru if you apply for this position. The management at Hainan probably doesn't know either, and they will be using the first few as guinea pigs to find out.
Good luck to those who try.
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The way the CAAC deals with Air China in Beijing, the the rules they impose, are vastly different than a different arm of the CAAC will impose on a different airline somewhere else.
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I'd check on the actual requirements before applying for the Hainan 320/ 330 upgrade. When China Southern tried it, Caac imposed a requirement of 500 hours domestic flying before release to long haul operations- something CS could not facilitate. The program was subsequently stillborn.
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I started this thread less then a week ago. You have to go back more than the current page to find out about China.
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...b-juneyao.html
I started this thread less then a week ago. You have to go back more than the current page to find out about China.
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...b-juneyao.html
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SHANGHAI - After being blamed for several accidents, foreign pilots are calling for the airline industry to adopt better safety systems.
In a recent notice, the Civil Aviation Administration of China's East China regional administration said it will strengthen its oversight of foreign pilots. The stricter supervision comes after a Korean captain from Juneyao Airlines last month refused to yield to a mayday call made by another plane.
Roy Weinberg, an US citizen who joined Spring Airlines a year ago, said the installation of safety management systems would help to prevent such incidents.
He said the Juneyao incident, rather than being a mishap that can be easily blamed on one person, showed that China should work to make airlines safer.
In Shanghai alone, 219 foreign pilots from six airline companies - China Eastern Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Juneyao Airlines, Spring Airlines, China Cargo Airlines and Yangtze River Express - are to be subject to the heightened scrutiny before the end of October.
"They visited us earlier this month and were especially interested in knowing what standards we use in recruiting foreign pilots, whether we have guide booklets on management and how much (the pilots) follow the regulations of the Civil Aviation Administration of China," said Xiao Fei, who is with Spring Airlines' foreign pilot and student pilot management office.
Xiao said most Chinese airlines give foreign pilots no special privileges.
He said the pilots undergo tests every six months to gauge their knowledge of aviation theory and their flying ability. "But this time more background checks on foreign pilots are required," he said.
Earlier this month, the civil aviation administration sent a telegraph bearing the title "Notice on Strengthening the Management of Foreign Pilots" to the six airline companies. It, in part, said, "the Juneyao Airlines incident revealed that some foreign pilots are subject to serious lapses in their professional ethics and discipline. It also showed the flaws airline companies have in their hiring, training and managing of foreign pilots".
On Aug 13, the Korean captain on a Juneyao Airlines flight ignored instructions given by air-traffic controllers at the Shanghai Hongqiao airport and refused to give way to another aircraft that was trying to make an emergency landing. The captains of both airplanes claimed they were running out of fuel.
A subsequent investigation revealed, though, that the Juneyao Airlines plane had enough fuel to stay in the air for 42 minutes, while the other plane could only remain in flight for 18 minutes.
Zhang Qihuai, an aviation law expert with the Beijing-based Lan Peng Law Firm, wrote in a recent blog entry that poor discipline and disorderliness are common among foreign pilots.
"They were not the backbones of the airlines in their home countries and they came to China for better pay," said Zhang.
With the recent expansion of Chinese airlines, a shortage of capable pilots has become increasingly apparent. By 2015, China's aviation industry will be seeking to hire 18,000 pilots, according to China Business News.
China Daily
from this: Foreign pilots call for better safety systems|Society|chinadaily.com.cn
looks like things will not be pretty for expats in China in the future.
In a recent notice, the Civil Aviation Administration of China's East China regional administration said it will strengthen its oversight of foreign pilots. The stricter supervision comes after a Korean captain from Juneyao Airlines last month refused to yield to a mayday call made by another plane.
Roy Weinberg, an US citizen who joined Spring Airlines a year ago, said the installation of safety management systems would help to prevent such incidents.
He said the Juneyao incident, rather than being a mishap that can be easily blamed on one person, showed that China should work to make airlines safer.
In Shanghai alone, 219 foreign pilots from six airline companies - China Eastern Airlines, Shanghai Airlines, Juneyao Airlines, Spring Airlines, China Cargo Airlines and Yangtze River Express - are to be subject to the heightened scrutiny before the end of October.
"They visited us earlier this month and were especially interested in knowing what standards we use in recruiting foreign pilots, whether we have guide booklets on management and how much (the pilots) follow the regulations of the Civil Aviation Administration of China," said Xiao Fei, who is with Spring Airlines' foreign pilot and student pilot management office.
Xiao said most Chinese airlines give foreign pilots no special privileges.
He said the pilots undergo tests every six months to gauge their knowledge of aviation theory and their flying ability. "But this time more background checks on foreign pilots are required," he said.
Earlier this month, the civil aviation administration sent a telegraph bearing the title "Notice on Strengthening the Management of Foreign Pilots" to the six airline companies. It, in part, said, "the Juneyao Airlines incident revealed that some foreign pilots are subject to serious lapses in their professional ethics and discipline. It also showed the flaws airline companies have in their hiring, training and managing of foreign pilots".
On Aug 13, the Korean captain on a Juneyao Airlines flight ignored instructions given by air-traffic controllers at the Shanghai Hongqiao airport and refused to give way to another aircraft that was trying to make an emergency landing. The captains of both airplanes claimed they were running out of fuel.
A subsequent investigation revealed, though, that the Juneyao Airlines plane had enough fuel to stay in the air for 42 minutes, while the other plane could only remain in flight for 18 minutes.
Zhang Qihuai, an aviation law expert with the Beijing-based Lan Peng Law Firm, wrote in a recent blog entry that poor discipline and disorderliness are common among foreign pilots.
"They were not the backbones of the airlines in their home countries and they came to China for better pay," said Zhang.
With the recent expansion of Chinese airlines, a shortage of capable pilots has become increasingly apparent. By 2015, China's aviation industry will be seeking to hire 18,000 pilots, according to China Business News.
China Daily
from this: Foreign pilots call for better safety systems|Society|chinadaily.com.cn
looks like things will not be pretty for expats in China in the future.
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Some airlines, like Hainan, you might find yourself jumpseating and flying as an FO for over 300 hours for a Type-rated Captain position. The 320-330 deal at Hainan is new, and there is a real good chance they haven't sorted out the details with their local CAAC. God knows what requirements the CAAC will impose upon you. This place is chaos in a lot of ways. The way the CAAC deals with Air China in Beijing, the the rules they impose, are vastly different than a different arm of the CAAC will impose on a different airline somewhere else. HTF knows what you will go thru if you apply for this position. The management at Hainan probably doesn't know either, and they will be using the first few as guinea pigs to find out. Good luck to those who try.
I´d would never risk to loose my currency in the A320, to risk an A330 position.
For what I`ve been told , you will be stuck as FO for one year at half salary.They say if you don`t pass the upgrading for command (which includes oral tests),you will kindly offer you to stay as FO.
Remember what they need is english speaking people.Does not matter if you are Capt or FO.
Since the incident with Juneyao, life is becoming harder and harder to foreigners.
During these CAAC checks , many foreigners have been downgraded to FOs.
Anyway , if you want to give a try , choose GPS as your broker.Don`t go to Bfield.
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Zhang Qihuai, an aviation law expert with the Beijing-based Lan Peng Law Firm, wrote in a recent blog entry that poor discipline and disorderliness are common among foreign pilots.
"They were not the backbones of the airlines in their home countries and they came to China for better pay," said Zhang.
China Air, Air China, China Southern crews get lost everyday in JFK... Maybe the US new papers should start writting articles everytime a Chinese crew cant taxi...
"They were not the backbones of the airlines in their home countries and they came to China for better pay," said Zhang.
China Air, Air China, China Southern crews get lost everyday in JFK... Maybe the US new papers should start writting articles everytime a Chinese crew cant taxi...
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It is not only on the Ground they get lost also in the Sky, when you hear a Controller talking to Chinese and Korean Crews he talk like to a second grader with one sentence at the time.
Spelling safety is one thing applying it another... time to move on East of the Ural Mountians and West side of the Pacific.
It is easy to spit on the Expat´s (Foreigner) that withdraw´s the focus from the own dirt.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
Spelling safety is one thing applying it another... time to move on East of the Ural Mountians and West side of the Pacific.
It is easy to spit on the Expat´s (Foreigner) that withdraw´s the focus from the own dirt.
Fly safe and land happy
NG
