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Old 29th June 2009, 14:20   #1 (permalink)
 
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Kingfisher rising like a phoenix

The other thread was getting too long. Why don't we try a positive title as Kingfisher has changed quite a lot over the last few months. Just as there were positive posts in the old, negative titled thread; negative posts are welcome in this positive titled thread.
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Old 29th June 2009, 17:25   #2 (permalink)
 
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yes that should work fine......since the titanic was taking its own sweet time too!
In other news,hope the Air Force paints some turn pad guide lines,while kingfisher gets its many new Capts to practice pivotal 180 turns on the Runway.
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Old 29th June 2009, 18:02   #3 (permalink)
 
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yes that should work fine......since the titanic was taking its own sweet time too!
In other news,hope the Air Force paints some turn pad guide lines,while kingfisher gets its many new Capts to practice pivotal 180 turns on the Runway.
hee hee gud one
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Old 30th June 2009, 18:33   #4 (permalink)
 
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After the Exudus....

Air India is not renewing the contracts of its retired pilots.
Some are trying to get into Kingfisher.
So looks like the exudus is stemmed for at least a bit
Meanwhile those stayng put in KFR are not complaining,as the flying has increased!
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Old 1st July 2009, 06:24   #5 (permalink)
 
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Mallya looking to sell Equity

Clearly if the frequent reports by the likes of Economic Times are to be believed, Mallya is looking to sell some equity ( SIA, BA Indigo partners) to anyone wlling to pay HIS price. The problem for Mallya is anyone willing to buy will want management control.. will he be willing to give that??

should make things interesting in the coming months if that dose happen. In current enviroment any money other than high price Debt is very difficult to come by.

Too many incidents of late.. and mostly basic errors.. a bit disconcerting i might add. Anyway we carry on in the uncertain enviroment hoping boss has a plan.

Cheers to all keeping the faith.
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Old 1st July 2009, 11:20   #6 (permalink)
 
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The fact is that if you were to look at the state of Kingfisher from a pure finance point of view , there really isn't much hope for it's survival unless there is an outside party willing to invest and take the responsibility of the huge debt burden.Better than that would be to start another airline.On the other hand if Dr.Mallya is willing to off load substantial stakes in his other companies to keep KF afloat then yes it would survive.But if you want long term stability it's high time that KF have a man who is aviation savy and who has a free hand in running the airline.Alex Wilcox was the right man..unfortuantely KF lost him...
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Old 1st July 2009, 17:03   #7 (permalink)
 
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Devil Phoenix wid a badddd tummyache?

Don't smell 2 gud wid da s**t hittin' da ceilin' all over

kf is approximately 3 planes down at last count - one tried 2 foxtrot a tractor, one was changing employment 2 be a boat till ATC screamed and now one seems to have got so carried away he was doin? aerobatics on the ground till he rammed a wall or sumthin!

da smell ain't beautiful bro - maybe using methane gas or wud it be s**t & molasses to make the phoenix rise from the da ashes
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Old 1st July 2009, 20:01   #8 (permalink)
 
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here is what wall street thinks..

SpiceJet, Kingfisher Expect to Break Even This Financial Year - WSJ.com
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Old 2nd July 2009, 07:49   #9 (permalink)
 
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Wonder How much he would sell ??
Long time back VJM said KFA is his baby and always would be !!
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Old 3rd July 2009, 09:04   #10 (permalink)
 
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When you reflect that Kingfisher 320 made his new thread in October of 2008 with the dire warning that inevitable sinking was imminent, you can see that he is probably not the one to suggest your lottery numbers!

Many posters on the thread seemed only too delighted at the prospect of the airline going bust. I wish all the nasty plagues imaginable on them and your daughters and wish Kingfisher and all their employees the very best of luck!
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Old 6th July 2009, 10:25   #11 (permalink)
 
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sinking......still

kfa's debts have mounted further and whoever gives them money will not be in the right frame of mind.

any idea whats happened to the two A330s still lying unused? one i believe one is a christmas tree.
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Old 6th July 2009, 14:15   #12 (permalink)
 
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Angel Quiet now all of you!

Don't say nutting -ve bout da King or Rubik will Cube ya
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Old 6th July 2009, 15:02   #13 (permalink)
 
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apparently zey have not made salary payments till now...

phoenix getting singed???
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Old 6th July 2009, 16:13   #14 (permalink)
 
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Devil It's called "Tandoori Nights"

More like Tanduri Phoenix
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Old 7th July 2009, 05:23   #15 (permalink)
 
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IndAir967

Please check your PM sir.
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Old 7th July 2009, 11:57   #16 (permalink)
 
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you think its funny

I am amazed and disappointed by the comments of some in this post...indair and figure of...

An airline has an incident where the wingtip gets damaged by a shelter in an airforce airport....and you guys make a joke about it...are you professional pilots or a bunch of " desperate housewives" ...get a life !
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Old 7th July 2009, 16:31   #17 (permalink)
 
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Danger Donno take it personal fella!

Oh off course unless you belong to the select bunch of m____ys flying gold plated bathtubs and liftin' those 2 lil brownie thingies Good Morning!
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Old 7th July 2009, 17:09   #18 (permalink)
 
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kingfisher plane hit an air force bunker

I think now i sound professional eh?
Cheers
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Old 10th July 2009, 06:31   #19 (permalink)
 
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professionalism

losers!...hope you enjoy reading about your own airline when someone writes in a similar vein..its amazing how KF evokes such strong interest even now...and no I dont fly the ACJ!
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Old 10th July 2009, 07:51   #20 (permalink)
 
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Showing their interest in any company in these desperate times need not say much of that company.............that it is poorly run by a very corrupt 'team' is very obvious to many in this field so lets not live in denial here.

To safe-guard your own interests there and for the sake of the staff living day-to-day, it would be best that its faults are discussed more openly.

Hopefully, VJM would get to know these things (hope he picks some comments of PPRuNe......but it may not be to his glossy liking...) and think of putting them right.........may not be too late even now.
But if people wish to live in denial........
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