SIA Mishap
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Is it any suprise to those of us who flew for SQ that a local captain could not handle operating in a stiff crosswind?
Dodging debris my arss. The only thing dodgy is the Captain's excuse and SIA immediately handing out money to victims. Again, those of us who have lived under their tyranny know better. This is as much an admission of guilt as you'll ever get from a Singaporean.
Barrel roles over the Indian Ocean, improper control inputs whilst on autopilot resulting in pitch-ups that injure passengers, attempting to land on the wrong runway, taxiing into deadends are all symptoms of the Asian lack of CRM in their culture and training.
Can I back this stuff up? Hardly, no records lah. All gone lah. Too bad lah. This bury your head in the sand approach to running an airline has Alaska Air in dire straights. Why should SQ or any airline be any different?
Standing nail gets the hammer? Same goes for those hiding from the truth. They eventually get pegged.
My prayers to the victims and their families.
Dodging debris my arss. The only thing dodgy is the Captain's excuse and SIA immediately handing out money to victims. Again, those of us who have lived under their tyranny know better. This is as much an admission of guilt as you'll ever get from a Singaporean.
Barrel roles over the Indian Ocean, improper control inputs whilst on autopilot resulting in pitch-ups that injure passengers, attempting to land on the wrong runway, taxiing into deadends are all symptoms of the Asian lack of CRM in their culture and training.
Can I back this stuff up? Hardly, no records lah. All gone lah. Too bad lah. This bury your head in the sand approach to running an airline has Alaska Air in dire straights. Why should SQ or any airline be any different?
Standing nail gets the hammer? Same goes for those hiding from the truth. They eventually get pegged.
My prayers to the victims and their families.
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This topic was posted on 24Oct 2000 a week before the crash of SQ006 and the real thing happened!!!!! God knows why!!! And what a real coincidence.
Many Aviators out there say this time really have to buy lottery....
Marco, for your info the Captain on SQ006 is a Malaysian with 11,235 flying hours not a Singaporean whereas the two F/Os are.
Many Aviators out there say this time really have to buy lottery....
Marco, for your info the Captain on SQ006 is a Malaysian with 11,235 flying hours not a Singaporean whereas the two F/Os are.
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Boeinglover - What happened to the Learjet has been widely disseminated within the areas that are affected, Learjet know, SIA and their training department know, Thailand, (whose job it is to publish the findings knows) and pretty well all of us who were here at the time know. In addition, the findings have been passed on throughout the air safety environment, worldwide, but have been "de-identified", is this what is bothering you?
If you keep going on like this many of us will be inclined to think that far from writing a serious paper you actually failed to get into SIA?
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If you keep going on like this many of us will be inclined to think that far from writing a serious paper you actually failed to get into SIA?
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As part of the training establishment of SIA at the time I can say that we were not informed officially as to why the accident occurred. There were lots of rumours and that's all. I am certain that if the ground equipment was at fault SIA would have trumpeted this as the cause. At least Taipei happened in a public situation and therefore can not be covered up.
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I had the pleasure of flying behind that Lear once. It was shooting down a LOC when suddenly it declared that it lost the LOC and DME. Smart enough he went around. The tower though, without checking, declared its NDB approach for everyone else. Yeah NDB approach in a Thunderstorm, sure 
The problem was, I was getting the LOC all the time. Ident and all. So did everyone else behind me. Good thing the tower decided to allow us a LOC approach. Wouldn't have gotten visual otherwise. I have always wondered, is it the ground eq or is there a problem with the Lear's intruments.
The problem was, I was getting the LOC all the time. Ident and all. So did everyone else behind me. Good thing the tower decided to allow us a LOC approach. Wouldn't have gotten visual otherwise. I have always wondered, is it the ground eq or is there a problem with the Lear's intruments.
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Addinfurnightem,
For your info, I have not tried & currently also underage to have a go at SQ cadet scheme.
But would definitely wanna to have a shot at it when I turn 26. Also I have nothing against SQ, they always have my support even after the recent crash. When I travel, it's always on SQ planes only.
Good day.
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For your info, I have not tried & currently also underage to have a go at SQ cadet scheme.
But would definitely wanna to have a shot at it when I turn 26. Also I have nothing against SQ, they always have my support even after the recent crash. When I travel, it's always on SQ planes only.
Good day.
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PPRuNe will be using 2001 to mount a major safety dissemination project. To be blunt we are going to use the site as a conduit to the major safety and confidential reporting systems established in a few countries.
If we have to shame other parts of the world into stepping into open sharing of information we will. Don't care how long or how much time it takes - the PPRuNe community will make a difference.
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Why is everyone telling the world that the guy who screwed up in Taipei was Malaysian. It was in the papers, it is on this site, it was said over and over on the electronic media. Does this order come straight from Lee Kuan Yu's office. "Tell them he's a Malaysian. Everyone knows Singaporean pilots are better than Malaysian pilots." The name was Chinese (Foong CK). He worked for Singapore Airlines and that says it all.
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sir jerker,
yeah, poor m'sian in SIA, worked there for 21 years, lost his m'sian mentality, picked up the sick singaporean mentality + the SIA mentality...that's why things like that can happen. They can say whatever they want about the malaysians, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHA who's major reputation is it that's gone? SIA 'lah' of course. However, SIA still loves malaysians and would rather recruit them to be their flight crew. Again, poor m'sian.....just remember that having a sing mentality wouldn't get you too far. Maybe the singaporeanIZED captain was so 'kiasu' that when other planes took off from TPE before him, such as MAS, he 'also cannot tahanlah'. The singaporean mentality tells him - no, cannot delay take off, MUST take off, until the point the RWY played tricks on him..... poor guy.
yeah, poor m'sian in SIA, worked there for 21 years, lost his m'sian mentality, picked up the sick singaporean mentality + the SIA mentality...that's why things like that can happen. They can say whatever they want about the malaysians, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHA who's major reputation is it that's gone? SIA 'lah' of course. However, SIA still loves malaysians and would rather recruit them to be their flight crew. Again, poor m'sian.....just remember that having a sing mentality wouldn't get you too far. Maybe the singaporeanIZED captain was so 'kiasu' that when other planes took off from TPE before him, such as MAS, he 'also cannot tahanlah'. The singaporean mentality tells him - no, cannot delay take off, MUST take off, until the point the RWY played tricks on him..... poor guy.
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this posting is not refering to the TPE crash and I dont think malaysian pilots who work for SQ are 'poor thing'. Their salary as capt with SQ say is about $20,000 and when converted to malaysian currency is about RM44,000! with that amount you can buy a terrace house in malaysia.if they were to fly for mas think they will get about RM18000.these people started without any aviation(cadets)experience and were given everything by SQ! so,what is there to complain?
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I think it was in 1996 when a SIA male cabin crew raped and killed a female cabin crew in a Los Angeles hotel room.
In Singapore before his name and nationality was published, the Singaporeans were quick to say, "the Malaysian cabin crew that..."
Sir Jerker, the master prefect's name is, Lee Kuan Yew (Dirty Harry).
In Singapore before his name and nationality was published, the Singaporeans were quick to say, "the Malaysian cabin crew that..."
Sir Jerker, the master prefect's name is, Lee Kuan Yew (Dirty Harry).
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addinfurnightem:
Wrong again. Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
The "respected pilot" was flying a sophisticated multi-crew aircraft as Single Pilot IFR PLUS covering for the mistakes of his student pilot. Where was the Safety Pilot?
Why does SIA cover it up? - LOSS OF FACE!!!
I wittnessed some pretty amazing stupid stuff performed in that Lear program by some pretty amazing and stupid expats AND locals.
"Lenny's Amazing Flying Circus"
Wrong again. Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
The "respected pilot" was flying a sophisticated multi-crew aircraft as Single Pilot IFR PLUS covering for the mistakes of his student pilot. Where was the Safety Pilot?
Why does SIA cover it up? - LOSS OF FACE!!!
I wittnessed some pretty amazing stupid stuff performed in that Lear program by some pretty amazing and stupid expats AND locals.
"Lenny's Amazing Flying Circus"
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DANNY/CAPT. PPRUNE - The idea of a confidential reporting forum is great in theory, unfortunately countries who are sensitive about having their dirty washing put in the public eye will simply make the PPRuNe BB inaccessible!
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