Its been a week since you last posted something here.....
Something such as the AAG/Clark good news ghost posts that, by magic, simply disappear. But you must be used to those disappearing tricks, such is the practice you have with the cadets money....
It is significant that there was no challenge to what you wrote:
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"I call Andrew McIntosh by the name of Scrooge because he promotes wealthy C&C Alpha Aviation Group's usurious relationships with cadets who are of little means. These relationships, along with a lack of charity and shabby treatment of the company employees in Clark, are his Scrooge-like qualities. The only presents I would ask of Andrew is to employ the remaining foreign MPL cadets from Clark Aviation or compensate them; give the wrongly-accepted/entrenched kid in Sharjah a full refund; and finish off the last batch of Pinoy MPL cadets already. They all deserve Merry Christmases after all these years.
By now it should be clear to anyone reading this thread that some of the Alpha Aviation Group managers, past and present, operate by a Lie & Deny strategy. It has worked very well in the past for these managers, and in their own minds, they think it is still working. It is certainly less expensive to lie and deny, than to spend and mend."
RP and STRATOS, always so quick to deny the evidences posted here, have not dared say a word......
The truth hurts and those who keep the scam alive should think twice, at least, about the consequences to themselves.
Is IATA being given accurate and truthful information regarding the Sharjah and Clark Aviation performances?
For all those that have been fighting for fairness
To help understand the question, this is the "IATA Training and Qualification Initiative (ITQI)" report and where you can find the information given to IATA in respect of those two training centres. Find the report that IATA has for the APATS in Singapore here:
To better see what I'm talking about, right click on any page and "Save as" to your computer.
Open the PDF file and go to page 12, Fig. 7 "IATA Global MPL Tracker".
Zoom to 600% (on my computer) and analyse the data for ALPHA AVIATION / CLARK and SHARJAH.
Since IATA officials would not suck up the numbers from their thumbs, the logical conclusion is that AAG was the entity providing the data.
Do the numbers in the report agree with what the REALITY is and has been at both training centres?
If they are not REAL numbers, doesn't this mean that an international organization such as IATA has been lied to and provided with false data?
Since IATA works closely with ICAO, and both rely on truthful information from the FTOs that provide MPL training, doesn't this constitute a crime of false information and abuse of trust?
I'm sure that the IATA and ICAO representations in APATS would appreciate some personal presentation from those who have been fleeced by the continuing scam.
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Last edited by traveller93; 24th Jun 2012 at 04:52.
I need a little help here... can you please tell me in whether Alpha Clark schools are worth it? I am an Indian with PPL from Serbia,CPL did from Philippines and got it converted in India in 2009. My experience in Philippines was very bad after Serbia, leaving the flying part as my instructors were great. But the management sucked big time, lied and never kept there promise not only with me but with every student from my time and i guess before me also. I want to fly any aircraft from C152 to A320. Please if to join these schools, will i get stuck? will they keep there word? Can i get a job in Philippines if i do 320 training with out marrying a local girl?
"....you will get great training and fair treatment from Alpha's team in the Philippines. It is by far the most professional FTO in the Philippines....."
I dismal attempt at becoming a joker. Stick to being a clown..... The sad one, that is.
Last edited by traveller93; 30th Aug 2012 at 16:13.
You would like to change de subject, wouldn't you, strato?
Lets rather get back to the business at hand and give us your solution to the plight of the unemployed Clark Aviation, AAG, MPL pilots. They were simply abandoned after being skinned clean of their money.
Until the day AAG resolves this matter, count on me to bring it up here.
strato..... Just because you are an idiot, don't try to pull the wool over everybody's eyes. It is clear that you are the one who is telling lies and they have been unmasked here.
There are more than one Clark Aviation MPL pilots (they are not cadets anymore) unemployed and AAG is not doing anything about their situation. I'm not talking about all those cadets who were dropped along the way and not given any refund or compensation.
What is at stake here is the fact that some paid and were issued MPL licences and AAG has not done anything to find them the promised jobs, be it in the Philippines, UAE or anywhere else in the world.
Now you come with a story about "bar one who has a rather unusual set of circumstances"..... what can be such a thing? The only "unusual set of circumstances" can only be really bad luck for getting involved with such a bunch of crooks in AAG and believing their lies.
Spell it out if you have a drop of courage and I dare you to come out clean. No names no pack drill, just tell everybody what "unusual set of circumstances" could lead to the hardship of so many MPL pilots, or just the one you are referring to.
And yes, let the world pass their judgement as to who is telling the truth. Your own statements are a revelation that there are unfinished business that AAG has to resolve.
Until the last one.
Last edited by traveller93; 4th Sep 2012 at 02:54.
I'm sorry Stratocruiser but there is truth to what Taras B is saying. I have a cousin who graduated under AAG's CPL program with an A320 rating but is still unemployed. He says that a bunch of them are hard pressed on looking for jobs and are kinda down because it's been months since they graduated.
I myself am an airman and wanted to take a type rating in AAG. But based on what my cousin told me I'm having second thoughts.
TARAS B, how many times do you need to be told, there are no unemployed Filipino cadets who completed the programme. There is only one unemployed (European) cadet who completed the programme, and there are reasons behind this. All other cadets are fully employed. Only those who failed the course do not have jobs, and that would be the same whether they took MPL or CPL. Also, please remember that I am not AAG Management, merely an observer of the BS that you portray and somebody who needs to put your lies straight.
Just had to copy/paste this,as we all know that AAG/CA's affiliates here on PPRuNe have a tendency to either delete or edit their posts when they get smacked with the truth in their faces. And again it seems like Strato, once again, got Jupiter's "C*$#@ in A#$*".
my previous posts are able to show the hardships that everyone endured while a cadet at AAG's CA facility. And the continuous hardship and difficulties that many still endure both professionally, mentally, financially and most importantly time lost because of the way AAG conducted their "professional" business. Its sad to say and see, that AAG still cannot put right what they have wronged. those who know the MPL'ers that still require a job, promised by AAG, and that includes the European, know all to well the real
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reasons behind this
. No fault was or has ever been done by them .Not to mention the ones who did their CPL and A320 type rating, who were told that Airphil Express would take them in. Too the point that the SOP's that they were taught were Airphil's. AGG has a lot to correct and answer for, before they might, and i do mean might, have some sort of successful future.
@ Jetfire. Hope things will work out for your cousin soon and I'll be able to see him at my companies FL OP's looking at hes next flight. keep us posted on how things work out.
@strato. SOP's means Standard Operating Procedures. Just in case your as stupid as you are ignorant and blind.
strato..... Just because you are an idiot, don't try to pull the wool over everybody's eyes. It is clear that you are the one who is telling lies and they have been unmasked here.
There are more than one Clark Aviation MPL pilots (they are not cadets anymore) unemployed and AAG is not doing anything about their situation. I'm not talking about all those cadets who were dropped along the way and not given any refund or compensation.
What is at stake here is the fact that some paid and were issued MPL licences and AAG has not done anything to find them the promised jobs, be it in the Philippines, UAE or anywhere else in the world.
Now you come with a story about "bar one who has a rather unusual set of circumstances"..... what can be such a thing? The only "unusual set of circumstances" can only be really bad luck for getting involved with such a bunch of crooks in AAG and believing their lies.
Spell it out if you have a drop of courage and I dare you to come out clean. No names no pack drill, just tell everybody what "unusual set of circumstances" could lead to the hardship of so many MPL pilots, or just the one you are referring to.
And yes, let the world pass their judgement as to who is telling the truth. Your own statements are a revelation that there are unfinished business that AAG has to resolve.
Until the last one.
The absence of a reply is strong evidence that strato is using this forum to slander the victims of the ongoing AAG scam.
Further proof is his latest coment:
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....."TARAS B, how many times do you need to be told, there are no unemployed Filipino cadets who completed the programme. There is only one unemployed (European) cadet who completed the programme, and there are reasons behind this......
From "unusual set of circumstances" to "there are reasons behind this"......
Neither the "circumstances" or "reasons" were clarified by the author of those statements which, until so done, constitute slander.
Also, Strato's repeated afirmation that he "is not AAG management" falls very short of the truth. He spins far too much for an outsider "spares salesman".......
The old tactic of blaming the victims will not succeed. A lie repeated a thousand times is still a lie.
Again I challenge strato, or any others, to come out clean and spell out the "circumstances" and/or "reasons" that led/are leading to the hardship of those skinned by AAG.
I'm sure there are a lot of interested ears waiting.....
Strato are you on the pipe or the drink when your posting here.. I mean seriously now, you keep contradicting yourself post to post.
Right now your saying there's no MPL'ers without a job and just a post ago you gave an example of one MPL'er who was still unemployed... One thing is for sure, AAG has a lot of outstanding obligations still in hand, and a lot more broken dreams and broken promises in its pockets.
Do a little less of whatever it is your on and maybe people might take you a little bit more seriously. maybe...
Last edited by stormiscoming; 13th Sep 2012 at 22:09.
Traveller93, for the last time, no one got skinned, there are no hardships and the only people out of work are those that failed the course. Sad, but it happens. AAG has no obligations to anybody. All those that it had obligations to were found jobs in the Philippines and Sharjah. Traveller, you are like a broken record. Put up or shut up. Name names if you truly have evidence.
Strato said:
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"TARAS B, how many times do you need to be told, there are no unemployed Filipino cadets who completed the programme. There is only one unemployed (European) cadet who completed the programme, and there are reasons behind this......
and strato said:
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All who completed the course are employed (bar one who has a rather unusual set of circumstances)
So.... who is trying to spin it?
Since you twice mentioned that there is still one MPL AAG graduated pilot unemployed, it is up to you to name him and spell out the "....reasons behind it...." and the "....rather unusual set of circumstances...." that made AAG falter on their commitments.
Come on, have some guts and spill it out.
So far, and for a number of years, I've concentrated on the plight of the AAG MPL cadets, and then pilots, calling for some sense of justice and fair play from the responsible people. To no avail. The last post from the "spares salesman" is clear of the intention to rob those who, unwittingly, fell for AAG's rosy promises.
Pure thievery.
No, I will not give up the just fight and you just raised the issue to a level you will find unbearable.....
All other cadets are fully employed. Only those who failed the course do not have jobs, and that would be the same whether they took MPL or CPL.
I was only referring to this comment which is false and was only stating that a part of what Taras B is saying is true. That's it. I never said CPL program had an alignment. And I wouldn't be commenting about CPL out of the blue if it wasn't part of the conversation, which it is.
@ stormiscoming: sure, man. I'm sure he'll be ecstatic to inform me when he gets hired.
You are not wasting your time when you state the truth as it is.
Truth that should be known by all that are still thinking to dish out their cash on a company that has no ethics and was run (and is until they sort out all the injustices of the past) by crooks.
As seen in this thread, they attempt to conceal their criminal actions by trying to put the blame on the victims by slander. A typical move of crooked minds.
.....there are no broken dreams, no ripped off students and no MPL'ers without jobs (except one)......
Says the AAG manager on duty.
Despite challenges to spell out the "reasons" for the continuing unemployment of the referenced MPL pilot, strato insists in the attempt to deviate the attentions from that real drama.
Until he comes out with a public proof explanation, he is the only slanderer in this forum.
Slander is the weapon of a coward..... but his day will come!!!
AHHHHH you are confusing me!!!!!!!
Nasaan paul bico at pete quinlan???? Wala ang recent photos sa Clark Aviation cadets and instructors??
