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Old 1st April 2009, 11:26   #601 (permalink)
 
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heard ten cadets done sim check ride and cleared caap. have they started with bupaks?
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Old 1st April 2009, 14:27   #602 (permalink)
 
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They are on their "Indoctrination" training already with Cebu pac. They will have their TAGS on a real A320 sometime this month.

Best of luck to them. Im sure they'll do good just like in the trainings!
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Old 2nd April 2009, 03:36   #603 (permalink)
 
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wow

WOW.

this is sooooo amazing. this can only help to prove whether MPL really and does work so a development like this is always welcome.

they claim to be asia's first MPL? because Alteon was just "beta testing". by the way, and my apologies for inserting a different topic, but does anyone have any word/ link on how Alteon's graduates are doing now?
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Old 3rd April 2009, 04:27   #604 (permalink)
 
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@ aerocadet

How come the MPL program chooses the A-320 or a B-737NG for the trainee's type rating?

Maybe the others in this forum can correct me if i am wrong but i see no safety or training issue with doing an MPL directed towards the bigger jets or the other narrow bodies. In theory, it should be possible to do that.

Choosing the A320 or the B737NG i think is more of an economics decision: the cost of doing base training TAGS on a B777 (as what another Asian airline was said to be contemplating) or an A340 would be prohibitive! Until the Civil Aviation Authorities allow the TAGS to be done on the simulators (not gonna happen in the near future, i guess), i think most MPL programs will be done using the narrow body jets.

then among the narrow bodies, it just comes down to which aircraft types being flown right now has the most number -- likely the A320 and B737NG.

My own question is this -- would the MPL make sense for the small regional and business jets? Or why not extend it to the increasingly popular turboprops like ATRs, Dorniers, Embraers, etc., for which most airlines take in low hour pilots anyway....
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Old 3rd April 2009, 08:05   #605 (permalink)
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Flybe are doing just that. MPL onto a Dash 8.

Incidentally, at APATS 2008 TG advised that their MPL approach will be to use the A300-600.
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Old 6th April 2009, 10:56   #606 (permalink)
 
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What Happened To 1st Batch

heard the 1st batch still waiting also you need 12 takeoffs and landing in a 320 to pass and that cebu pac didnt want to use their a320.

also heard that the stores here is bankrupt and that the people buy their own coffee, gosh management must be using the money again

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Old 6th April 2009, 12:46   #607 (permalink)
 
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Usage of Bupak A320

I wouldn't too.... the insurance people wouldn't be too happy I guess.
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Old 6th April 2009, 15:31   #608 (permalink)
 
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???

like what's been said, initial 10 guys are already with cebu pac. last i heard they have dates targeted. just hoping no AOG's happen and those guys will do landings and take offs very soon....i guess as fellow (and would be!) aviators, we should all wish them the best of luck!
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Old 7th April 2009, 02:41   #609 (permalink)
 
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heard the 1st batch still waiting also you need 12 takeoffs and landing in a 320 to pass and that cebu pac didnt want to use their a320.

also heard that the stores here is bankrupt and that the people buy their own coffee, gosh management must be using the money again

obviously, you got your sources wrong.... or your just making up stories again.
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Old 7th April 2009, 12:15   #610 (permalink)
 
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Stories Wrong

HAHAHA, stories are right, the only students who will be lucky enough to graduate are the ones of cebu pac, i pity all those other students who are not sponsored by cebu pac.

heard that the 2 bumbays are blacklisted in the philippines and are wanted by immigration for not having work permits.

hope the rest of the foreigners there have work permits as CID will be checking them all soon.

my stories are correct, management is just trying to deny them to the students.....

did the 1st batch of last year graduate, no BS when you answer.....
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Old 9th April 2009, 20:06   #611 (permalink)
 
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bombay?

im curious, but which bombays are you talkin about... i know of only one bombay.. HOT...
and whats with the non sponcored?
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Old 13th April 2009, 16:36   #612 (permalink)
 
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@ mountaintop2007

Thanks for the answer!

Hmmm.. Just hope everything goes well with the MPL training.
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Old 21st April 2009, 16:09   #613 (permalink)
 
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Clark Aviation

CLARK AVIATION IS JUST A JOKE AND THE STUDENTS ARE THE ONES WHO WILL PAY...........

I QUIT ALREADY BECAUSE I RIPPED...
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Old 22nd April 2009, 15:21   #614 (permalink)
 
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would like to bump this thread to say that 5 100+hour single-engine student pilots from Clark Institute of Aviation just did circuits with one of Cebu Pacific's A320's at RPLC.

MPL = now we know it works.

time for the school to address the non-Cebu Pacific-sponsored students.
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Old 23rd April 2009, 03:06   #615 (permalink)
 
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congratulations

cheers to cadets who did well: base training is always risky, but good training lessens the risk to acceptable minimal levels!

paolylo, any word on reaction/ actual comments from Cebu Pacific pilots on the performance of the MPL cadets?
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Old 23rd April 2009, 06:56   #616 (permalink)
 
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none yet. but looking at their circuits from afar, all of them landed on the same spot on the threshold, retracted their flaps on schedule, and the sound of the engines slowing down from MAN FLEX was very audible. i wouldn't know what went on inside the cockpit.
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Old 23rd April 2009, 07:46   #617 (permalink)
 
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Wouldn't really be too quick in saying that the MPL program works until the cadets are released from IOE. But still, that's no small feat what they just accomplished.

Kudos to the 5J scholars!
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Old 23rd April 2009, 08:59   #618 (permalink)
 
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Congratulations!

Congratulations Clark Aviation Cebu Cadets!

Well Done!
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Old 23rd April 2009, 15:10   #619 (permalink)
 
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MPL cadets

Their instructors tell me most of them are good ... it ain't over until the fat lady sings ... so release from IOE will be the final milestone ... congratulations and all the best to the MPL pioneers
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Old 24th April 2009, 05:34   #620 (permalink)
 
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@Toulost

Wouldn't really be too quick in saying that the MPL program works until the cadets are released from IOE. But still, that's no small feat what they just accomplished.

I second the motion! Hope we hear from the gentlemen who did the exercise here (hopefully the cadets themselves, but most especially the pilots) how it was...can't wait to read their thoughts.

happy flying everyone!
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