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Old 20th February 2009, 01:10   #601 (permalink)
 
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It's confirmed. No more hiring for Airbus F/O for 2009 fiscal year. Even this current batch of trainees in the sim are unsure as to when they will start actual line training since there is a surplus of F/Os at this time.
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Old 21st February 2009, 08:45   #602 (permalink)
 
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Wowee this is a long thread on Clark, any more updates on this lot?

I heard that only the first batch will be finishing this year '09, am here in the Philippines and was talking with them on Hot air balloon day - going to go down and have a look around their facilities next week and ask a lot of questions:

I'll look through this thread first, and if anyone wants any specifics answered at this stage jot them down and ill print them all out to ask personally and report back here.

Sorry for bringing up an old thread but might aswell keep it all in one place.
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Old 22nd February 2009, 01:53   #603 (permalink)
 
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I don't think 70 hours flying time would suffice for an instructor rating, especially now that there is a new CAR.
yep for sure...

they will have to build more time as 70 hours will definitely not cut it.
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Old 25th February 2009, 04:41   #604 (permalink)
 
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yep for sure...

they will have to build more time as 70 hours will definitely not cut it.
they can always do the fish run.....oops thats for CPL holders only, MPLs not allowed.
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Old 25th February 2009, 10:02   #605 (permalink)
 
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So they have no where to go but Cebu Pacific? There are already so many people pissed as hell with the idea of sitting them directly to the right seat of the 320...it's going to break the growth chain of a lot of pilots. The essence of "paying your dues" does not exist in bupak if they go direct to the 320 thus causing a lot of negative emotions within the line.I would hate to go to work knowing that a lot of people there hates me. On the other side after spending so much money and only left with one option (Cebu Pacific) makes this MPL scheme kind of not worthit. Damned if they do, damned if they don't!
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Old 26th February 2009, 12:50   #606 (permalink)
 
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A certain retired PAL Captain who is now working as a consultant for the CAAP is stalling the MPL approval of Clark Aviation. He used to be the Chief Flight Instructor of CA back in 2007 but management was not happy with the way he was running the training program. Ironically He was not happy with management so one day he left and never came back.

The sooner MPL is approved by CAAP, the sooner these cadets will move on to the next step in their aviation career. Sadly though its not really all that well with aviation given that the Global financial crisis is still in effect. Even 5J is not spared.
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Old 27th February 2009, 11:22   #607 (permalink)
 
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"I would hate to go to work knowing that a lot of people there hates me"

well this job is not for you! where in the world can you find a job where everyone likes you anyway? WELL THEN WAKE UP THIS IS REALITY YOU CANNOT PLEASE EVERYBODY work is boring if everyone likes you give yourself a challenge you dont work for them just prove to yourself you're worth it .. mpl's still got a lot to prove. we'll just wait and see.
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Old 27th February 2009, 13:09   #608 (permalink)
 
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I never said everybody has to like you but at least lessen the ones that hate you.This applies to any job in any market, not just flying. A good working environment makes your life a lot easier. I don't question the methods or style of the MPL way, I merely pointed out how they will get in line. Secondly, I'm enjoying my job a lot...thank you very much.
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Old 2nd March 2009, 10:26   #609 (permalink)
 
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???

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The sooner MPL is approved by CAAP, the sooner these cadets will move on to the next step in their aviation career. Sadly though its not really all that well with aviation given that the Global financial crisis is still in effect. Even 5J is not spared.
I thought MPL was approved by CAAP last year...??? thats what i was told when i joined sometime at the beggining of last year... can you clarify.....
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Old 3rd March 2009, 01:05   #610 (permalink)
 
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Licence

Assuming MPL was approved what does the physical licence look like? Is it also the booklet type as the CPL ones?
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Old 7th March 2009, 14:02   #611 (permalink)
 
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But I think they have changed the booklet one to simple two face card which is not of a good quality either.
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Old 20th March 2009, 16:27   #612 (permalink)
 
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Hi guys / gals

I have initiated a thread on the Middle East forum regarding the MPL programme. It is being done by the same organisation conducting your training.

Could some of you be so kind as to to relay your experiences with the MPL programme so far to our pilot brethren in the Middle East?

Please go to MPL Alpha Aviation UAE - CAUTION!

Your constructive comments would benefit us all.

Thanks,

Airbusbatics
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Old 22nd March 2009, 03:07   #613 (permalink)
 
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Everyone who wants to upgrade doesn't want them there either.......
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Old 30th March 2009, 14:17   #614 (permalink)
 
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Hello!

I do have a question:

How come the MPL program chooses the A-320 or a B-737NG for the trainee's type rating?

Is it because.. those represent the future of jet airliners?

Thanks!
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Old 31st March 2009, 04:20   #615 (permalink)
 
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Clark Aviation Crash

Has anyone heard of the recent crash of Clark Aviation?
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Old 1st April 2009, 10:26   #616 (permalink)
 
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heard ten cadets done sim check ride and cleared caap. have they started with bupaks?
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Old 1st April 2009, 13:27   #617 (permalink)
 
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They are on their "Indoctrination" training already with Cebu pac. They will have their TAGS on a real A320 sometime this month.

Best of luck to them. Im sure they'll do good just like in the trainings!
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Old 2nd April 2009, 02:36   #618 (permalink)
 
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wow

WOW.

this is sooooo amazing. this can only help to prove whether MPL really and does work so a development like this is always welcome.

they claim to be asia's first MPL? because Alteon was just "beta testing". by the way, and my apologies for inserting a different topic, but does anyone have any word/ link on how Alteon's graduates are doing now?
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Old 3rd April 2009, 03:27   #619 (permalink)
 
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@ aerocadet

How come the MPL program chooses the A-320 or a B-737NG for the trainee's type rating?

Maybe the others in this forum can correct me if i am wrong but i see no safety or training issue with doing an MPL directed towards the bigger jets or the other narrow bodies. In theory, it should be possible to do that.

Choosing the A320 or the B737NG i think is more of an economics decision: the cost of doing base training TAGS on a B777 (as what another Asian airline was said to be contemplating) or an A340 would be prohibitive! Until the Civil Aviation Authorities allow the TAGS to be done on the simulators (not gonna happen in the near future, i guess), i think most MPL programs will be done using the narrow body jets.

then among the narrow bodies, it just comes down to which aircraft types being flown right now has the most number -- likely the A320 and B737NG.

My own question is this -- would the MPL make sense for the small regional and business jets? Or why not extend it to the increasingly popular turboprops like ATRs, Dorniers, Embraers, etc., for which most airlines take in low hour pilots anyway....
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Old 3rd April 2009, 07:05   #620 (permalink)
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Flybe are doing just that. MPL onto a Dash 8.

Incidentally, at APATS 2008 TG advised that their MPL approach will be to use the A300-600.
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