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Old 4th June 2008, 04:55   #321 (permalink)
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Compensation

Did you guys sign a training agreement when you enrolled?
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Old 5th June 2008, 04:36   #322 (permalink)
 
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@9ball
well, im not really interested, nor do i care if zone 220 is a cadet or not, maby he is maby he s not. if he s not,well then, he does seem to know a little bit more than many cadets at times haha... and then why whould he be so negative at times to CA...hmmmm.
take a number hey,,hehe... what s your ticket number, mines a little high so i ll have to wait quite a bit...
happy flying
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Old 5th June 2008, 08:31   #323 (permalink)
 
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any takers?

taken from flight magazine website
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QFI's - Manila - Flight Crew

  • Job Position: Permanent
  • Location: Philippines
  • Job Hours: Full-Time
  • Job Role: First Officer/s
  • Company: Clark Avaition
  • Posted Date: 20 May 2008 14:06:45
QFI's - Manila - Flight Crew

Clark Aviation, part of the Alpha Aviation Group with worldwide interests in aviation training, is situated 80km North of Manila, Philippines, and currently has over 100 students undertaking the world's first MPL course. Currently, graduates are destined for airlines in the Far and Middle East. We now have vacancies for:
QFI's with ME rating, a minimum of 500 hours instructional time and 1500 hours total flying time to teach core flying skills and IF.
We can offer short, medium and long term assignments and an excellent remuneration package to include accommodation and a range of other benefits.
If you feel that you have the skills necessary to motivate and educate aspiring young airline pilots and would like to be involved in an exciting new training strategy please send your CV by clicking the apply button below or fax.
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Old 5th June 2008, 14:11   #324 (permalink)
 
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A sad and unwelcome dose of reality?

I have followed this thread with increasing sadness and sympathy since the first post because of previous knowledge of the Alpha Aviation share holders.

I am at the other end of the career spectrum from the cadets caught in the jet blast of this debacle but may I offer you all a bit of unsolicited advise?

It may be that compensation is paid in time but I doubt it. The priority for all of you who have been fleeced is to get on with your aviation career. Sure, you start with an unwarranted and unwelcome debt unless you have rich parents, but in the great scheme of things viewed from many years ahead the success of your aviation career may depend on you putting this shambles behind you.

You are not the first to suffer loss at the hands of unscrupulous training providers and daresay you will not be the last. If you allow it to take over your life you will not progress.

If you can raise the money, throw this away whilst the market is still somewhat buoyant in this region and get yourself a license.

You have my utmost sympathy - I wish you all god luck. For what it is worth I know few people who have reached the heights of professional pilot careers who have not suffered some set backs on the way.

Justice has nothing to do with it - determination has. And - forget the racial rants; this is not a racial prejudice issue. Every country has its share of unscrupulous business men.
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Old 5th June 2008, 14:38   #325 (permalink)
 
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bupak buy CIA?

why buy a losing company? you can just wait till it dies a natural death then just pick the pieces you want.
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Old 7th June 2008, 20:15   #326 (permalink)
 
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but what's going to happen to us cadets? the free accomodation is not enough for the lost we're incurring as time goes by. i hope we'll get to finish before the year ends. i hope cebu can do something to address the issues.
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Old 8th June 2008, 04:07   #327 (permalink)
 
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i need some clarification as im not a CIA cadet. i am still looking around for a good flying school. why are the cadets not proceeding with the training?
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Old 8th June 2008, 05:13   #328 (permalink)
 
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Bupak will only pick up one thing and that is the A320 sim that they own.
This is the only thing that would make any business sense to bupak, i agree with the previous posts, why buy a losing business? with a promised MPL license that is only on an experimental basis and add to that the recent surge in fuel prices, almost every airline are cutting their operations, laying over and furloughing pilots and also predicting a global slow down in growth. So why waste money?

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Old 10th June 2008, 06:37   #329 (permalink)
 
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i need some clarification as im not a CIA cadet. i am still looking around for a good flying school. why are the cadets not proceeding with the training?
Vito:

Why don't you try and apply to Sabena Flight Academy, this will fast track you to getting your A320 Type Rating, if you enroll now you might see some familiar looking people there............
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Old 10th June 2008, 07:40   #330 (permalink)
 
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sabena

isnt sabena flight academy in the US.... its a bit far right... and the visa issue for us pinoys is a bit harder to get ...from what ive heard...
you think CA cadets are gonna go there also?
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Old 10th June 2008, 09:05   #331 (permalink)
 
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Hey Folks,

Have Philippine's FTO started to raise up their traning package prices? if then haven't don't tell them to do it
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Old 18th June 2008, 17:11   #332 (permalink)
 
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tell me about it! i heard one cadet pilot from the higher batch is now looking for work because he's been vacant for the past weeks or months.

if they are planning to shut down i hope they will inform us soon and cut this dragging chase!
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Old 18th June 2008, 19:40   #333 (permalink)
 
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Just weeks ago i've seen CIA Student Pilot logbooks being submitted in ATO for Pre-Solo Exam Permits. So i guess, they're far from shutting down.
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Old 21st June 2008, 01:40   #334 (permalink)
 
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Ca Transfer

once heard a rumor CA was transferring to dubai. Maybe thats true because the IT guy thats starts with a D was in dubai last month.

What about our refunds or deposits (for those that made)

can anyone confirm or know about this???????????????????
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Old 21st June 2008, 01:52   #335 (permalink)
 
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Shutting Down????????????

why would management tell you if they are shutting down. these are foreigners they will just pack up and go. if you don't see anymore instructors that will tell you something else. they can count there losses since this is a big company and move out. am still wondering how that catering foreigner can be paid php300k and still CA no money???

care to elaborate?????

we are watching these foreigners closely
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Old 21st June 2008, 02:31   #336 (permalink)
 
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Truth and Imagination

am still wondering how that catering foreigner can be paid php300k

@Skydiver 66666

I don't know young Man where you got your Info in regards to your quote bud you should post truthfully and not hearsay or your imagination.
That " Foreigner " is running F&B as a Lessee meaning he is paying rent , operational expense , staff salary , etc , therefore paying CA and not wise-versa.
Reading your Posting's in the Past it is very clear that you do not like these Foreigners bud i am wondering why you came here knowing that Foreigners in the School!?
One can only earn respect if he show's respect-start growing up and see you around
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Old 21st June 2008, 06:22   #337 (permalink)
 
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Weeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll

that came from reliable source inside the CA, its reliable unless you can prove other wise, i have no problems with foreigners except that they have not given what they have commited.

regardless they are spending too much for that guy running the canteen.

thats my opinion, prove it wrong.....
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Old 21st June 2008, 06:31   #338 (permalink)
 
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My Education Is Important

i want my license, it was going ok till until february, when mp took over, heard he was fired from there & alpha.

from my other friend there (student) millions misappropriated. well maybe thats why the IT guy near dubai to transfer the school
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Old 22nd June 2008, 16:43   #339 (permalink)
 
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Sabena

great idea, but i want what CA owes me 1st
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Old 22nd June 2008, 16:51   #340 (permalink)
 
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Foreigners

i dont dislike foreigners im just wondering why no filipinos are running the school. I see only foreigners which i think is wrong.

maybe they think filipinos are not qualified to run the school or the catering services, maybe this should be brought to the attention of the mayor or CDC Head (new since Laus resigned).

Hey CDC why not filipinos this is our country??????????????
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