Cebu Pacific newly hired FO salary???
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nice info jc....thanks for that.....
how much will i spend for that kind of license and medical fees....?
and what office should i go.....in nichols or in beside of NAIA2??
jc....
SPL license....ilang months before it expires....
if i got this license....
no problem ba if i get a A/P license nxt yr???
thanks....
how much will i spend for that kind of license and medical fees....?
and what office should i go.....in nichols or in beside of NAIA2??
jc....
SPL license....ilang months before it expires....
if i got this license....
no problem ba if i get a A/P license nxt yr???
thanks....
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Hi guys,
Been reading all your funny replies... reading this tread gives me a lot of the info i was looking for.
Reading a lot of your comments about CEBU PAC some are good, some are i guess bad.
I've also been thinking about applying to Cebu PAC, im currently a Grade 2 Flt Instructor for China Southern Airlines based in Western Australia, i have close to 1500TT. i can hold my philippine passport again. Im a Filipino/Aust.
still have to really wieigh up my options, the pros and the cons. Just wanted your opinion guys before i invest on my Philippine LIcense conversion. what do you think?
I expect the pay to be low, is it really abound 100k pesos a month? but then again the standard of living there is also low. im pretty sure Cebu Pacific will pay for your Airbus type rating and your bonded for 3 years. can someone confirm all of this. thanks
also, dodnt know CP has Second officers! so if i get in i start as a SO?
flyboylipad
Been reading all your funny replies... reading this tread gives me a lot of the info i was looking for.
Reading a lot of your comments about CEBU PAC some are good, some are i guess bad.
I've also been thinking about applying to Cebu PAC, im currently a Grade 2 Flt Instructor for China Southern Airlines based in Western Australia, i have close to 1500TT. i can hold my philippine passport again. Im a Filipino/Aust.
still have to really wieigh up my options, the pros and the cons. Just wanted your opinion guys before i invest on my Philippine LIcense conversion. what do you think?
I expect the pay to be low, is it really abound 100k pesos a month? but then again the standard of living there is also low. im pretty sure Cebu Pacific will pay for your Airbus type rating and your bonded for 3 years. can someone confirm all of this. thanks
also, dodnt know CP has Second officers! so if i get in i start as a SO?
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hey people, do u think it's a logical think to do? i mean paying half of the training cost for cadet pilot program.
cost of doing Frozen ATPL in Malaysia :
PPL, CPL/IR, Frozen ATPL without type rating cost about RM 190,000 (including accomodation and meals)
RM 1 = PHP 13
RM 190,000 x 13 = PHP 2,470,000 including accommodation and meals people!!!
And CEB demand cadet pilot to shoulder half of the training cost which is PHP 3,750,000. They said they gonna pay half, so u need to pay PHP 1,870,000.
I dont think cost of doing ATPL is that high especially in the Philippines. How can Malaysia charge less because from what i heard standard of training there quite strict and high. They have SIA, Kingfisher and Indian Airlines sending pilots there for ATPL too. So there's no doubt about the quality.
In phils? how could they charge more? or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years.
You pay for your own training and you sign bond to keep you from flying with other airlines. Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?
Well this is just my theory. because i dont think cost of obtaining license in phils is that high. please think again.
cost of doing Frozen ATPL in Malaysia :
PPL, CPL/IR, Frozen ATPL without type rating cost about RM 190,000 (including accomodation and meals)
RM 1 = PHP 13
RM 190,000 x 13 = PHP 2,470,000 including accommodation and meals people!!!
And CEB demand cadet pilot to shoulder half of the training cost which is PHP 3,750,000. They said they gonna pay half, so u need to pay PHP 1,870,000.
I dont think cost of doing ATPL is that high especially in the Philippines. How can Malaysia charge less because from what i heard standard of training there quite strict and high. They have SIA, Kingfisher and Indian Airlines sending pilots there for ATPL too. So there's no doubt about the quality.
In phils? how could they charge more? or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years.
You pay for your own training and you sign bond to keep you from flying with other airlines. Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?
Well this is just my theory. because i dont think cost of obtaining license in phils is that high. please think again.
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Ssangyong:
First, get your Mathematics right!
The cost of the course is 3,750,000 PHP which divided by 2 is 1,875,000, NOT1,870,000 as you mentioned. Mathematics is a fundamental part of a pilots life - learn it!
Also, you say that a frozen ATPL course costs something like 2,470,000 in Malaysia. Not a bad price, it's about average. So add to that the price of an A320 type rating. The cheapest ones I know of are in the States and Canada, and they cost you about 10,500 USD. So that's about another 575,000 PHP minimum, excluding airfare, accomodation and meals. That's if you do it in the States or Canada, it's substantially more expensive if you do it in Europe or in the Asia-Pacific region, I know of programs that cost 28,000 USD. But wait, before you can do the type rating course you need an MCC course. Let's say, on the cheap side, an extra 1500 USD minimum or 150,000 PHP...
So how are those mathematics adding up.....
But keep in mind that the type rating course I mentioned here is just that, a bare type rating course, if you want to add to that a base flight and buy 300 operational hours flying with some airline, altogether that would cost you 45,000 USD, minimum, or 2,250,000 PHP.
So how are those mathematics adding up....
Now, Cebu Pacific offers you all that: the theory/pratical part equivalent to a Frozen ATPL, an MCC course, a A320 type rating, a base flight and the opportunity to have a job on a jet straight out of the course....Plus a lot of the people joining the program have been given 50% scholarships by CEB, some even 100%...
All that bonded for 3 years for the 50%, bonded for 5 years for the 100% if I'm not mistaken.... That might not be a bad deal...
Plus the bond is pro-rata, so for example for someone who paid half of the course, if you do one year with CebPac you only have to pay the outstanding two thirds, after two years an outstanding one third, etc.
So, resuming, your direct comparison between the price of a frozen ATPL course in Malaysia and the price of the program offered by CEB is a simplistic approach...As you would say: "Please think again"
Price of a frozen ATPL in Malaysia...................................PHP 2,470,000
Price of CEB cadet pilot course in the Philippines................PHP 3,750,000
Getting Ssangyongs to do mathematics............................Priceless
Second, be coherent!
Here, on this thread, you make statements like:
"or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years. and "You pay for your own training and you sign bond to keep you from flying with other airlines. Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?"
And then on the 16th May on the 'cebPac pilot exodus' thread you say:
"3 yrs with CEB wont be bad at all. I'll try with them too. by next year. good luck"
So, now 3 years ain't bad, huh? Feeling ready to be conned are you...?????
Here you state:
"How can Malaysia charge less because from what i heard standard of training there quite strict and high. They have SIA, Kingfisher and Indian Airlines sending pilots there for ATPL too. So there's no doubt about the quality."
Then on the 'Flight Training In Malaysia! MFA,HMA or APFT?' thread you say:
"At first i thought schools in Malaysia are generally good but they sucks too..."
So what's it gonna be? Good or Bad? Make up your mind....
Pilots are supposed to be assertive and assured. You change colours like I change underwear....
Third, Cover your tracks!
If I go to see your public profile and read your other posts on other threads, I can gather....:
You did your training at MFA in Malaysia, you flew DH6 Twin-Otters in Borneo, you fly cropdusters in Malaysia, you're studying economics at Uni...
How many people do you think match your profile?
So when you submit your CV at CebPac next year, have you thought about the possibility that the hiring people there and Mr. Gonkongwei would know who you are....and maybe remember such pearls of wisdom like:
"or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years. and "Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?"
Understand this this is a public forum.... If you are going to come on this open forum and make comments like that, once again, be aware of possible repercussions, Big brother might be watching you...
PS - I personally like to call him "GOOK"ongwei, but I'm not applying for Cebu Pacific am I....
So, cover your tracks.....
So based on everything that I have said above, next time you post, think before you post.
You reveal yourself as immature.
I think it's time for the Boy to become a Man.
First, get your Mathematics right!
The cost of the course is 3,750,000 PHP which divided by 2 is 1,875,000, NOT1,870,000 as you mentioned. Mathematics is a fundamental part of a pilots life - learn it!
Also, you say that a frozen ATPL course costs something like 2,470,000 in Malaysia. Not a bad price, it's about average. So add to that the price of an A320 type rating. The cheapest ones I know of are in the States and Canada, and they cost you about 10,500 USD. So that's about another 575,000 PHP minimum, excluding airfare, accomodation and meals. That's if you do it in the States or Canada, it's substantially more expensive if you do it in Europe or in the Asia-Pacific region, I know of programs that cost 28,000 USD. But wait, before you can do the type rating course you need an MCC course. Let's say, on the cheap side, an extra 1500 USD minimum or 150,000 PHP...
So how are those mathematics adding up.....
But keep in mind that the type rating course I mentioned here is just that, a bare type rating course, if you want to add to that a base flight and buy 300 operational hours flying with some airline, altogether that would cost you 45,000 USD, minimum, or 2,250,000 PHP.
So how are those mathematics adding up....
Now, Cebu Pacific offers you all that: the theory/pratical part equivalent to a Frozen ATPL, an MCC course, a A320 type rating, a base flight and the opportunity to have a job on a jet straight out of the course....Plus a lot of the people joining the program have been given 50% scholarships by CEB, some even 100%...
All that bonded for 3 years for the 50%, bonded for 5 years for the 100% if I'm not mistaken.... That might not be a bad deal...
Plus the bond is pro-rata, so for example for someone who paid half of the course, if you do one year with CebPac you only have to pay the outstanding two thirds, after two years an outstanding one third, etc.
So, resuming, your direct comparison between the price of a frozen ATPL course in Malaysia and the price of the program offered by CEB is a simplistic approach...As you would say: "Please think again"
Price of a frozen ATPL in Malaysia...................................PHP 2,470,000
Price of CEB cadet pilot course in the Philippines................PHP 3,750,000
Getting Ssangyongs to do mathematics............................Priceless
Second, be coherent!
Here, on this thread, you make statements like:
"or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years. and "You pay for your own training and you sign bond to keep you from flying with other airlines. Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?"
And then on the 16th May on the 'cebPac pilot exodus' thread you say:
"3 yrs with CEB wont be bad at all. I'll try with them too. by next year. good luck"
So, now 3 years ain't bad, huh? Feeling ready to be conned are you...?????
Here you state:
"How can Malaysia charge less because from what i heard standard of training there quite strict and high. They have SIA, Kingfisher and Indian Airlines sending pilots there for ATPL too. So there's no doubt about the quality."
Then on the 'Flight Training In Malaysia! MFA,HMA or APFT?' thread you say:
"At first i thought schools in Malaysia are generally good but they sucks too..."
So what's it gonna be? Good or Bad? Make up your mind....
Pilots are supposed to be assertive and assured. You change colours like I change underwear....
Third, Cover your tracks!
If I go to see your public profile and read your other posts on other threads, I can gather....:
You did your training at MFA in Malaysia, you flew DH6 Twin-Otters in Borneo, you fly cropdusters in Malaysia, you're studying economics at Uni...
How many people do you think match your profile?
So when you submit your CV at CebPac next year, have you thought about the possibility that the hiring people there and Mr. Gonkongwei would know who you are....and maybe remember such pearls of wisdom like:
"or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years. and "Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?"
Understand this this is a public forum.... If you are going to come on this open forum and make comments like that, once again, be aware of possible repercussions, Big brother might be watching you...
PS - I personally like to call him "GOOK"ongwei, but I'm not applying for Cebu Pacific am I....
So, cover your tracks.....
So based on everything that I have said above, next time you post, think before you post.
You reveal yourself as immature.
I think it's time for the Boy to become a Man.
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Dude, think again... you got World Class Training in that school in there I have tell you. I heard about recent media buzz about the school and I think they're featuring it soon in the papers and on TV. Something that we Filipinos should be proud of.
Alpha Aviation sent their best British instructors to man the training team, I heard their CBT Training is one of the best, if not "THE" best available in the market. Classrooms are well equipped, expensive computers, expensive chairs, excellent instructional programs, expensive quality materials plus books and manuals, new airplanes, CAE A320 Simulators and the training is all done under JAA standards. Very straightforward, they tell you the cost of the course inclusive of everything...no more embedded hidden charges etc...
I believe this is a jackpot for all inspiring pilots wanting a frozen ATPL, we're lucky it's here in the Philippines. I think they're gonna raise the tutition soon, which I think is justifiable with the quality of training and equipment this place is using.
Moreso, Cebu Pacific sponsoring half of your tuition plus giving you opportunity to work in a jet to accumulate your hours is a sweet deal. I know a lot of pilots who would beg and pay just to get hours and be given a chance to fly those A320s after they finish their CPLs. Here you get them to pay half of your tuition, then they guarantee you pay and work for 3 years!
Hurry up before Gokongwei wakes up and changes his mind in giving this opportunity to YOU aspiring Filipino pilots!
Alpha Aviation sent their best British instructors to man the training team, I heard their CBT Training is one of the best, if not "THE" best available in the market. Classrooms are well equipped, expensive computers, expensive chairs, excellent instructional programs, expensive quality materials plus books and manuals, new airplanes, CAE A320 Simulators and the training is all done under JAA standards. Very straightforward, they tell you the cost of the course inclusive of everything...no more embedded hidden charges etc...
I believe this is a jackpot for all inspiring pilots wanting a frozen ATPL, we're lucky it's here in the Philippines. I think they're gonna raise the tutition soon, which I think is justifiable with the quality of training and equipment this place is using.
Moreso, Cebu Pacific sponsoring half of your tuition plus giving you opportunity to work in a jet to accumulate your hours is a sweet deal. I know a lot of pilots who would beg and pay just to get hours and be given a chance to fly those A320s after they finish their CPLs. Here you get them to pay half of your tuition, then they guarantee you pay and work for 3 years!
Hurry up before Gokongwei wakes up and changes his mind in giving this opportunity to YOU aspiring Filipino pilots!
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Does Cebu Pacific automatically sponsor half the training cost for ALL successful applicants?
I checked the Alpha Aviation Group website and this is what I read from the application form I downloaded:
"Currently all our airline sponsorship places are full. We are constantly negotiating with many airlines in order to secure additional sponsorship for cadets.
Airline customers will initially be offered the choice of cadets who are already enrolled at the Institute and should we not be able to satisfy their requirements, we will advertise on this site and suitable
newspapers."
Can anyone clarify what this means?
I checked the Alpha Aviation Group website and this is what I read from the application form I downloaded:
"Currently all our airline sponsorship places are full. We are constantly negotiating with many airlines in order to secure additional sponsorship for cadets.
Airline customers will initially be offered the choice of cadets who are already enrolled at the Institute and should we not be able to satisfy their requirements, we will advertise on this site and suitable
newspapers."
Can anyone clarify what this means?
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i am very proud because somebody did a homework about me. the first time in my life
first of all. yeah i am a pilot. not type rated on airbus, but on DHC06 TWIN OTTER. about 50 hrs TT (plus 200 on piper seneca GT), about 1000++ on single engine (including crop duster). Might not be impressive, but im slowly building hours.
I am not as lucky as those of you, who get full or partial scholarship to do pilot training.
COPIED FROM MY PREVIOUS POST :
ex-twin otter pilot here
i earned about RM 4000 p/m (about $1300) flying as F/O in Borneo. but retrenched as a result of domestic rationalization program. they transfer the company to new management so they tell me i had to stop because they prefer guys with more experience. i left and after two weeks they call and want me back because all the experienced pilots left after they get offer (from the new company's sister company, same management) as F/O on a320. i said no because it's obvious they will offer me lower pay because i'm new from school. also i already enrolled for economics course in local university.
their attitude is amazing.
well u can inquire them. Fly Asian Xpress. based in Miri, Malaysia.
I GOT RETRENCED. UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE I WAS RETRENCED BY THIS COMPANY NOW TO FILL UP MY TIME I CHOOSE TO STUDY ECONOMICS. UNLIKE ANY OTHER PILOT SPENDING EXTRA HOURS DOING RESEARCH ABOUT STRANGERS.
I flied crop duster part time. mostly on weekend. not my full time job though. to build up my hours. pay-per-job basis. there's no harm in earning extra few bucks to do my own type rating which gonna cost at least $10.5k.
Since im jobless and decided to continue my study in uni, i actively seeking future opportunities in any company including cebu pacific. im ready to fly for gokongwei if he's willing to pay my type rating on airbus. and 3 years of service bond.
HOWEVER IM NOT INTERESTED (if im still pilot wannabe) to pay half of my training cost then get myself contracted to him, considering i can do on my own at slight lower prices, with no contract whatsoever. Let say, i qualified to be interviewed by Cebu pacific, satisfying all their strict criteria, and voila i land a cadet pilot program with CEB, i still have to pay half, amounting the value i miscalculated (and you got it right) to 'truly' enabled me to achieve my dream of flying.
Im telling all the wannabes out there, whether they interested or not, there's still many opportunities out there. I am not aware such thing as a 100% scholarship offered by CEB . All we hear and read in the newspaper is 50%, not 100%. U also need to verify your data.
about this "At first i thought schools in Malaysia are generally good but they sucks too..."
i graduated from this school, MFA, where his principal is capt. kashav, retired Indian air force pilot. there's no doubt about the training quality during my time. however after my batch left we heard about instructors left. other flying school are opening up in Malaysia, so there's a shortage of instructors. they left not because the state of training but being offered better pay, who'll refuse? Problems are everywhere, but i heard that this MH captain, who convert his license from Malaysian DCA ICAO to JAA, during exams he chatted about license conversion, the liaison officer of JAA said that if they have they will and if it's not because regulatory, pilots who had training in Malaysia, Australia and another country i forget can walk straight and take their new license, because these countries flying school is very strict especially on the theory test, where (he said) other countries schools would just pass their students,some even help theirs adding extra hours by just writing it in the log book.i hope and i believe this is not the case in the Philippines. That's the standard i mention. If you don't agree with me, i don't have any problem, ask any SQ, and MH pilots. And i want to stress here i didn't say standard of training in phils is low whatsoever.
I don't want to argue about you doing such a deep homework about me, maybe you're just like me,unemployed or simply not being in the job market or worse, a wannabe pilots who had nothing to do other than waiting the answers from ceb. I don't have such luxury of free time doing research about people who criticize me on the net.
What if, a son or daughter of a farmer, fared well in school, having ambition to become a pilot, qualified for cadet pilot by ceb, but have to turn it down because she/he cant afford the 50% of the fee? I want all the wannabes here to understand apart from cadet pilot by ceb, if they cant afford it, there's other way to become an aviator, joining air force for instance? Dont feel let down with the training cost.
Or they can afford it but having doubt or dont want to be bonded after the training, they can come to Malaysia. Well i know about the new school. You can go there, if you have doubt you ask them, new school doesnt mean sure-top notch training. It's the decision really. Im just comparing of what CEB demand and what you should pay to get the same thing in Malaysia. I just want people to think, and im glad u did. U clear all the confusion and even me myself im amazed.
You told me that i am immature, maybe i am. No man is perfect even a pilot. im just 22.
So wait for my CV ya, another 2 years i will finish my degree, and again i will embark my journey to become a full time pilot.
Please bear this in your mind, PPRUNE is a forum for pilots or anyone related to aviation, we're not interested in knowing how many times you change you underwear.
immature? only you can tell.......
first of all. yeah i am a pilot. not type rated on airbus, but on DHC06 TWIN OTTER. about 50 hrs TT (plus 200 on piper seneca GT), about 1000++ on single engine (including crop duster). Might not be impressive, but im slowly building hours.
I am not as lucky as those of you, who get full or partial scholarship to do pilot training.
COPIED FROM MY PREVIOUS POST :
ex-twin otter pilot here
i earned about RM 4000 p/m (about $1300) flying as F/O in Borneo. but retrenched as a result of domestic rationalization program. they transfer the company to new management so they tell me i had to stop because they prefer guys with more experience. i left and after two weeks they call and want me back because all the experienced pilots left after they get offer (from the new company's sister company, same management) as F/O on a320. i said no because it's obvious they will offer me lower pay because i'm new from school. also i already enrolled for economics course in local university.
their attitude is amazing.
well u can inquire them. Fly Asian Xpress. based in Miri, Malaysia.
I GOT RETRENCED. UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE I WAS RETRENCED BY THIS COMPANY NOW TO FILL UP MY TIME I CHOOSE TO STUDY ECONOMICS. UNLIKE ANY OTHER PILOT SPENDING EXTRA HOURS DOING RESEARCH ABOUT STRANGERS.
I flied crop duster part time. mostly on weekend. not my full time job though. to build up my hours. pay-per-job basis. there's no harm in earning extra few bucks to do my own type rating which gonna cost at least $10.5k.
Since im jobless and decided to continue my study in uni, i actively seeking future opportunities in any company including cebu pacific. im ready to fly for gokongwei if he's willing to pay my type rating on airbus. and 3 years of service bond.
HOWEVER IM NOT INTERESTED (if im still pilot wannabe) to pay half of my training cost then get myself contracted to him, considering i can do on my own at slight lower prices, with no contract whatsoever. Let say, i qualified to be interviewed by Cebu pacific, satisfying all their strict criteria, and voila i land a cadet pilot program with CEB, i still have to pay half, amounting the value i miscalculated (and you got it right) to 'truly' enabled me to achieve my dream of flying.
Im telling all the wannabes out there, whether they interested or not, there's still many opportunities out there. I am not aware such thing as a 100% scholarship offered by CEB . All we hear and read in the newspaper is 50%, not 100%. U also need to verify your data.
about this "At first i thought schools in Malaysia are generally good but they sucks too..."
i graduated from this school, MFA, where his principal is capt. kashav, retired Indian air force pilot. there's no doubt about the training quality during my time. however after my batch left we heard about instructors left. other flying school are opening up in Malaysia, so there's a shortage of instructors. they left not because the state of training but being offered better pay, who'll refuse? Problems are everywhere, but i heard that this MH captain, who convert his license from Malaysian DCA ICAO to JAA, during exams he chatted about license conversion, the liaison officer of JAA said that if they have they will and if it's not because regulatory, pilots who had training in Malaysia, Australia and another country i forget can walk straight and take their new license, because these countries flying school is very strict especially on the theory test, where (he said) other countries schools would just pass their students,some even help theirs adding extra hours by just writing it in the log book.i hope and i believe this is not the case in the Philippines. That's the standard i mention. If you don't agree with me, i don't have any problem, ask any SQ, and MH pilots. And i want to stress here i didn't say standard of training in phils is low whatsoever.
I don't want to argue about you doing such a deep homework about me, maybe you're just like me,unemployed or simply not being in the job market or worse, a wannabe pilots who had nothing to do other than waiting the answers from ceb. I don't have such luxury of free time doing research about people who criticize me on the net.
What if, a son or daughter of a farmer, fared well in school, having ambition to become a pilot, qualified for cadet pilot by ceb, but have to turn it down because she/he cant afford the 50% of the fee? I want all the wannabes here to understand apart from cadet pilot by ceb, if they cant afford it, there's other way to become an aviator, joining air force for instance? Dont feel let down with the training cost.
Or they can afford it but having doubt or dont want to be bonded after the training, they can come to Malaysia. Well i know about the new school. You can go there, if you have doubt you ask them, new school doesnt mean sure-top notch training. It's the decision really. Im just comparing of what CEB demand and what you should pay to get the same thing in Malaysia. I just want people to think, and im glad u did. U clear all the confusion and even me myself im amazed.
You told me that i am immature, maybe i am. No man is perfect even a pilot. im just 22.
So wait for my CV ya, another 2 years i will finish my degree, and again i will embark my journey to become a full time pilot.
Please bear this in your mind, PPRUNE is a forum for pilots or anyone related to aviation, we're not interested in knowing how many times you change you underwear.
immature? only you can tell.......
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ssangyongs - comment on CIA (MPL program cost)
hey people, do u think it's a logical think to do? i mean paying half of the training cost for cadet pilot program.
cost of doing Frozen ATPL in Malaysia :
PPL, CPL/IR, Frozen ATPL without type rating cost about RM 190,000 (including accomodation and meals)
RM 1 = PHP 13
RM 190,000 x 13 = PHP 2,470,000 including accommodation and meals people!!!
And CEB demand cadet pilot to shoulder half of the training cost which is PHP 3,750,000. They said they gonna pay half, so u need to pay PHP 1,870,000.
I dont think cost of doing ATPL is that high especially in the Philippines. How can Malaysia charge less because from what i heard standard of training there quite strict and high. They have SIA, Kingfisher and Indian Airlines sending pilots there for ATPL too. So there's no doubt about the quality.
In phils? how could they charge more? or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years.
You pay for your own training and you sign bond to keep you from flying with other airlines. Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?
Well this is just my theory. because i dont think cost of obtaining license in phils is that high. please think again.
Hey dude,
firstly, a mature person does not give remarks to people he really doesn't know personally. You may have just picked some feedbacks from people on this forum about Mr. Gokongwei. You're from Malaysia, you dont live here in manila, you're not even a cebu pac employee but then, you give foolish remarks on this person as if you have experience those things you've mentioned.
Airbusbastic is correct when he said the boy needs to grow up and become a man!!!
Remember, you are a pilot, you are not a gossip magazine writer!!!!
happy flying!!!
cost of doing Frozen ATPL in Malaysia :
PPL, CPL/IR, Frozen ATPL without type rating cost about RM 190,000 (including accomodation and meals)
RM 1 = PHP 13
RM 190,000 x 13 = PHP 2,470,000 including accommodation and meals people!!!
And CEB demand cadet pilot to shoulder half of the training cost which is PHP 3,750,000. They said they gonna pay half, so u need to pay PHP 1,870,000.
I dont think cost of doing ATPL is that high especially in the Philippines. How can Malaysia charge less because from what i heard standard of training there quite strict and high. They have SIA, Kingfisher and Indian Airlines sending pilots there for ATPL too. So there's no doubt about the quality.
In phils? how could they charge more? or this is just a ploy of Gokongwei to train you for peanuts amount (considering u pay half) and get u contracted to fly his birds for 5 years.
You pay for your own training and you sign bond to keep you from flying with other airlines. Dont u feel he's conning these unfortunate cadet pilot?
Well this is just my theory. because i dont think cost of obtaining license in phils is that high. please think again.
Hey dude,
firstly, a mature person does not give remarks to people he really doesn't know personally. You may have just picked some feedbacks from people on this forum about Mr. Gokongwei. You're from Malaysia, you dont live here in manila, you're not even a cebu pac employee but then, you give foolish remarks on this person as if you have experience those things you've mentioned.
Airbusbastic is correct when he said the boy needs to grow up and become a man!!!
Remember, you are a pilot, you are not a gossip magazine writer!!!!
happy flying!!!
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no hard feelings about mr airbusarcastic or anyone. my opinion about ceb pacific is still unchanged.
if you said that matured people dont give remarks or opinion about the people they dont know then mr airbusarcastic is just like me, immature because he dont know me and made a remark about me for not doing math calculation accurate as he is, considering i missed the amount by what? 5000 or 50000 peso??
i see no further point arguing about this. it's still my opinion though..
well in the phils u dont have full flying scholarship. i thought PAL used to have one.
it's kinda sad though, with partial scholarship only those who come from middle income family can afford to be a pilot.
if you said that matured people dont give remarks or opinion about the people they dont know then mr airbusarcastic is just like me, immature because he dont know me and made a remark about me for not doing math calculation accurate as he is, considering i missed the amount by what? 5000 or 50000 peso??
i see no further point arguing about this. it's still my opinion though..
well in the phils u dont have full flying scholarship. i thought PAL used to have one.
it's kinda sad though, with partial scholarship only those who come from middle income family can afford to be a pilot.
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Emirates is still on
Emirates is still hiring guys, if anybody is interested. They are now providing Airfares for the interview, unlike before that applicants spend for their own trip.
Just increased the salary lately, and that includes the Educational support allowance too.
Direct entry Captain position is also available to those who are Qualified(B777).
Direct entry FO for the A380s - at least 340 rated pilots are at present being looked at.(with all the delay, 2008 is the year for the 380s)
FO entry for 777 and 330s too.
Type rating not required
Plenty of lay-overs to choose from and turn arounds too, di mauubusan sa mga sikat.(bato bato sa langit)
City Living and lifestyle at its best ( depends on you ). Hindi lang disyerto ang meron kami.
Working Condition is good...cant say its the best, but its fine. A busy workplace just like all others. 900hours a year limit compared to our 1000hrs a year limitation in the Phil.
Summer is really Hot(32-35deg at night/ 40-50deg at day), but what the worries with a fully centralized villa or apartment, you'll never gonna noticed its already winter time. And what the heck, you'll be in Europe, USA or Australia enjoying a cup of coffee and the weather. (Coffee not that bad in Africa, india or Asia too)
It does Rain during Dec to Feb.(3 to 5 days in a row)
Dubai is a place free to practice ones religion and beliefs, you can even go out with a Woman whose not your wife( this are just sidedishes, which I dont recommend ).Hmmmmm
Multi cultural school environment exposure for the Kids is Best, just remind them of our own cultures sometimes.
The Best of them All, Living with the wife and kids.(if this is how you like it)
Im only giving options to those who are really keen of going, bec. others end up going somewhere they later felt was a big mistake. Wag niyo ng sirain ang pangalan ninyo if you only want to try and see it, passing it doesnt mean you're Sharp anyway. If your ON, then Emirates needs you.
www.emiratesgroupcareers.com
check it out
Just increased the salary lately, and that includes the Educational support allowance too.
Direct entry Captain position is also available to those who are Qualified(B777).
Direct entry FO for the A380s - at least 340 rated pilots are at present being looked at.(with all the delay, 2008 is the year for the 380s)
FO entry for 777 and 330s too.
Type rating not required
Plenty of lay-overs to choose from and turn arounds too, di mauubusan sa mga sikat.(bato bato sa langit)
City Living and lifestyle at its best ( depends on you ). Hindi lang disyerto ang meron kami.
Working Condition is good...cant say its the best, but its fine. A busy workplace just like all others. 900hours a year limit compared to our 1000hrs a year limitation in the Phil.
Summer is really Hot(32-35deg at night/ 40-50deg at day), but what the worries with a fully centralized villa or apartment, you'll never gonna noticed its already winter time. And what the heck, you'll be in Europe, USA or Australia enjoying a cup of coffee and the weather. (Coffee not that bad in Africa, india or Asia too)
It does Rain during Dec to Feb.(3 to 5 days in a row)
Dubai is a place free to practice ones religion and beliefs, you can even go out with a Woman whose not your wife( this are just sidedishes, which I dont recommend ).Hmmmmm
Multi cultural school environment exposure for the Kids is Best, just remind them of our own cultures sometimes.
The Best of them All, Living with the wife and kids.(if this is how you like it)
Im only giving options to those who are really keen of going, bec. others end up going somewhere they later felt was a big mistake. Wag niyo ng sirain ang pangalan ninyo if you only want to try and see it, passing it doesnt mean you're Sharp anyway. If your ON, then Emirates needs you.
www.emiratesgroupcareers.com
check it out
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Cessna1052,
Hi there old buddy! Before anything else, let me just wish you a very happy birthday! Hehe. Inuman na ba?
Cessna is right guys. If you have what it takes to be an expat pilot with all the glamour and prestige of an Emirates or an EY jock, then go for it. There are a lot of FO jobs in EK, as well as EY, that are up for grabs at the moment. Come and see for yourself the beauty of living in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Don't miss your chance, or you will regret it.
Cessna, hope to meet up with you in one of those nice layovers in Paris or London or Frankfurt. Gotta have a beer or two and some nice chit chat. Whatcha think?
Okay buddy, see you around.
Hi there old buddy! Before anything else, let me just wish you a very happy birthday! Hehe. Inuman na ba?
Cessna is right guys. If you have what it takes to be an expat pilot with all the glamour and prestige of an Emirates or an EY jock, then go for it. There are a lot of FO jobs in EK, as well as EY, that are up for grabs at the moment. Come and see for yourself the beauty of living in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Don't miss your chance, or you will regret it.
Cessna, hope to meet up with you in one of those nice layovers in Paris or London or Frankfurt. Gotta have a beer or two and some nice chit chat. Whatcha think?
Okay buddy, see you around.
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I'm looking for flying clubs or schools in the Philippines...
Hope all of you doing well.I have got my CPL/IR from Iran C.A.O. I'm willing to go to the Philippines and Look for a Flying club or Flying school to build up some flying times by Cessna 172.Is anybody knows where and how can i start?Just advice me a good clubs please.Regards
Jafar.