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With your profile better you find a solution in Europe. With all the current issues, I do not think you can go very far with a Malaysian licence as you are not Malaysian, is not it?
With your profile better you find a solution in Europe. With all the current issues, I do not think you can go very far with a Malaysian licence as you are not Malaysian, is not it?
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To get a Licence is one thing, to be able to find a job with it, is something else! There is the possibility of License conversion but it is not always easy and cheap!!!! Do not rush, study well your project. With all the Malaysian cadets on waiting list, the expats on the rim to be sacked from MAS and a DCA quite protective of its Job Market, be careful ....Get a look on the threads about MAS for example, you will see what is the situation.
If you have a useless licence, you will have never the opportunity to reimburse your loan!!!!
If you have a useless licence, you will have never the opportunity to reimburse your loan!!!!
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Originally Posted by ASIAN FROG
To get a Licence is one thing, to be able to find a job with it, is something else! There is the possibility of License conversion but it is not always easy and cheap!!!! Do not rush, study well your project. With all the Malaysian cadets on waiting list, the expats on the rim to be sacked from MAS and a DCA quite protective of its Job Market, be careful ....Get a look on the threads about MAS for example, you will see what is the situation.
If you have a useless licence, you will have never the opportunity to reimburse your loan!!!!
If you have a useless licence, you will have never the opportunity to reimburse your loan!!!!
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Yes, if you have a Type Rating maybe you will be accepted by Transmile and Maybe only. Few months ago there were few examples of success. But TODAY, I know a former MFA FI, (with a lot of hours and a good guy) very dedicated to join Transmile, with a full Malaysian Licence in his pocket (CA6, CA2...)in plus of his European and FAA licences: who cannnot join Transmile because the priority is Malaysian cadets, protectionism of DCA (Info old of one month only)
So to a young European (If I understand the profile, it is the case of MASTERD), what is his future with a Malaysian Licence? Master D has already difficulties to pay his licence, obviously he cannot offer a type rating: NO CHANCE TO JOIN WITH NO TR and NO HOURS an Airlines in Malaysia. Joining a school as FI in Malaysia, DCA will reject you if you have not enough instructional hours. With your Malaysian Licence (dry, no TR ,no hours) where are you going to find a job as Malaysia will not accept you, including in the schools because you have NO INSTRUCTIONAL HOURS: tell me what is the utility to get a Malaysian licence? NIL
About a conversion of your licence with no TR and no hour??? a dead end.
Master D, I have a deep experience of Civil Aviation and Training, I just try to avoid you do a big mistake
My advice:
MASTER D find a school in Europe, do your JAR licence, integrated or Modular, do your FI rating and then you will have a job in one school anywhere in the world for building your hours and pay your TR. A JAR licence is of a highest value that the Malaysian one, you should find a job a lot easily. Check all around you
So to a young European (If I understand the profile, it is the case of MASTERD), what is his future with a Malaysian Licence? Master D has already difficulties to pay his licence, obviously he cannot offer a type rating: NO CHANCE TO JOIN WITH NO TR and NO HOURS an Airlines in Malaysia. Joining a school as FI in Malaysia, DCA will reject you if you have not enough instructional hours. With your Malaysian Licence (dry, no TR ,no hours) where are you going to find a job as Malaysia will not accept you, including in the schools because you have NO INSTRUCTIONAL HOURS: tell me what is the utility to get a Malaysian licence? NIL
About a conversion of your licence with no TR and no hour??? a dead end.
Master D, I have a deep experience of Civil Aviation and Training, I just try to avoid you do a big mistake
My advice:
MASTER D find a school in Europe, do your JAR licence, integrated or Modular, do your FI rating and then you will have a job in one school anywhere in the world for building your hours and pay your TR. A JAR licence is of a highest value that the Malaysian one, you should find a job a lot easily. Check all around you
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Originally Posted by ASIAN FROG
Yes, if you have a Type Rating maybe you will be accepted by Transmile and Maybe only. Few months ago there were few examples of success. But TODAY, I know a former MFA FI, (with a lot of hours and a good guy) very dedicated to join Transmile, with a full Malaysian Licence in his pocket (CA6, CA2...)in plus of his European and FAA licences: who cannnot join Transmile because the priority is Malaysian cadets, protectionism of DCA (Info old of one month only)
So to a young European (If I understand the profile, it is the case of MASTERD), what is his future with a Malaysian Licence? Master D has already difficulties to pay his licence, obviously he cannot offer a type rating: NO CHANCE TO JOIN WITH NO TR and NO HOURS an Airlines in Malaysia. Joining a school as FI in Malaysia, DCA will reject you if you have not enough instructional hours. With your Malaysian Licence (dry, no TR ,no hours) where are you going to find a job as Malaysia will not accept you, including in the schools because you have NO INSTRUCTIONAL HOURS: tell me what is the utility to get a Malaysian licence? NIL
About a conversion of your licence with no TR and no hour??? a dead end.
Master D, I have a deep experience of Civil Aviation and Training, I just try to avoid you do a big mistake
My advice:
MASTER D find a school in Europe, do your JAR licence, integrated or Modular, do your FI rating and then you will have a job in one school anywhere in the world for building your hours and pay your TR. A JAR licence is of a highest value that the Malaysian one, you should find a job a lot easily. Check all around you
So to a young European (If I understand the profile, it is the case of MASTERD), what is his future with a Malaysian Licence? Master D has already difficulties to pay his licence, obviously he cannot offer a type rating: NO CHANCE TO JOIN WITH NO TR and NO HOURS an Airlines in Malaysia. Joining a school as FI in Malaysia, DCA will reject you if you have not enough instructional hours. With your Malaysian Licence (dry, no TR ,no hours) where are you going to find a job as Malaysia will not accept you, including in the schools because you have NO INSTRUCTIONAL HOURS: tell me what is the utility to get a Malaysian licence? NIL
About a conversion of your licence with no TR and no hour??? a dead end.
Master D, I have a deep experience of Civil Aviation and Training, I just try to avoid you do a big mistake
My advice:
MASTER D find a school in Europe, do your JAR licence, integrated or Modular, do your FI rating and then you will have a job in one school anywhere in the world for building your hours and pay your TR. A JAR licence is of a highest value that the Malaysian one, you should find a job a lot easily. Check all around you
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if u say transmile had stopped taking in expat then ok i can give u a benefit of a doubt
Look at mfa 80% of the instructor are expat
full Malaysian Licence in his pocket
9M I agree that some students should become instructors so they can build time to meet the requirments just like pilots all over the world do. But currently these cadets are lucky to be able to walk into AA, Transmile and even MAS. Lucky now but that will come to an end very soon as more and more pilots enter the workforce.
As an expat I know that my time in Malaysia is limited. I'm just trying to make the best of what I have been fortunate enough to be given.
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MasterD,
1. Are you a Malaysian?
2. Do you really want to be an "AIRLINE" pilot?
3. Do you have RM200K to burn?
4. Are you "WELL CONNECTED" with any big guns in any airlines or with any local politicians?
If all the answers are "YES", it is worth trying, otherwise, have another thought ...............
My 2 cents .....
1. Are you a Malaysian?
2. Do you really want to be an "AIRLINE" pilot?
3. Do you have RM200K to burn?
4. Are you "WELL CONNECTED" with any big guns in any airlines or with any local politicians?
If all the answers are "YES", it is worth trying, otherwise, have another thought ...............
My 2 cents .....
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Hi all
Thanks for all the info
I JUST WANT TO FLY
with an airline as an instructor i dont care i just want to be in the air i have worked day and night for 4 years to save the money to make this dream come true
Thanks for all the info
I JUST WANT TO FLY
with an airline as an instructor i dont care i just want to be in the air i have worked day and night for 4 years to save the money to make this dream come true
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Help Me~! SOS
HI... just like to ask something here... I"m going for the technical interview this thursday.. can anyone give me a help here? I'm afraid of the test.. any hints? what do I need to look out for before the interview? please help..
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Conditions at HMA
Hi all,
I initially had intentions of going to MFA for a CPL, but had 2nd thoughts after reading this : http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165062. Feedback from old and present students were very negative and moral of privately sponsored students are low.
I am wondering what the conditions are like in HMA.
Some major concerns:
1) Are private students being trained the same way as MAS/AA cadets? Read that private students are being grossly mistreated in MFA. This is in terms of ground school training materials and priority for flying. Also read that students there were segragated and discriminated (treated as 3rd class citizens) by the school.
2) What is the intructor: student ratio?
3) Are the training facilities (of good standard?
4) Are instructors professional and approachable?
Some issues of lesser concern are food and social life.
Feel free to comment on any other issues not mentioned!
cheers
I initially had intentions of going to MFA for a CPL, but had 2nd thoughts after reading this : http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=165062. Feedback from old and present students were very negative and moral of privately sponsored students are low.
I am wondering what the conditions are like in HMA.
Some major concerns:
1) Are private students being trained the same way as MAS/AA cadets? Read that private students are being grossly mistreated in MFA. This is in terms of ground school training materials and priority for flying. Also read that students there were segragated and discriminated (treated as 3rd class citizens) by the school.
2) What is the intructor: student ratio?
3) Are the training facilities (of good standard?
4) Are instructors professional and approachable?
Some issues of lesser concern are food and social life.
Feel free to comment on any other issues not mentioned!
cheers
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the mentioned figure is what i got from the asia pacific flight training website :
PPL/CPL/IR & ATPL (FROZEN)
Packaged Application for PPL/CPL/IR & ATPL (FROZEN) RM
1. 165 hours of Single-Engine Flying 85,800.00
2. 35 hours of Multi-Engine Flying 53,200.00
3. 875 hours of Ground School 21,875.00
TOTAL PACKAGE 160,875.00
upon dividing it by 3.5 to convert it into aussie dollars, it comes to AU$45 964.
I think its worth considering training up at Oz rather than Malaysia because with this figure, you are likely to get a CPL+IR anyway.
Richie
PPL/CPL/IR & ATPL (FROZEN)
Packaged Application for PPL/CPL/IR & ATPL (FROZEN) RM
1. 165 hours of Single-Engine Flying 85,800.00
2. 35 hours of Multi-Engine Flying 53,200.00
3. 875 hours of Ground School 21,875.00
TOTAL PACKAGE 160,875.00
upon dividing it by 3.5 to convert it into aussie dollars, it comes to AU$45 964.
I think its worth considering training up at Oz rather than Malaysia because with this figure, you are likely to get a CPL+IR anyway.
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my replies in bold
Hi all,
1) Are private students being trained the same way as MAS/AA cadets? Read that private students are being grossly mistreated in MFA. This is in terms of ground school training materials and priority for flying. Also read that students there were segragated and discriminated (treated as 3rd class citizens) by the school.
As a private student in HMA, I can say that we are treated equally, if not better than MAS cadets who have more restrictions placed upon them with respect to leave applications etc.
2) What is the intructor: student ratio?
Not too sure. ~20 instructors for ~200 cadets? (includes FIs and GIs)
3) Are the training facilities (of good standard?
Training facilities are near excellent. Each ground school classroom has a PC and projectors, and it is fully air conditioned. Our sim (ALSIM with glass cockpit) is new and well maintained.
4) Are instructors professional and approachable?
The instructors? Well, there are bad apples (the new CI - a screaming squeaky-voiced know-it-all ex-airforce pilot), Capt S.A (old CFI who's since moved on to head the MPL program) - does two-headed snake ring any bells? and Capt N - (quite a few students have ended up with bruised arms thanks to him, but a decent bloke overall.. among others) A few new arrivals this year : Maktab 01 from the RMAF Training College who recently left (janji keling) and Capt Z (ex-MFA CFI)
Some issues of lesser concern are food and social life.
FOOD! Yes. Typical malay food. Had some health issues recently (20-odd students down with severe food poisoning) but the school changed caterers so I guess it's better now. There's a mamak right outside our school too.
Social life - Keep in mind you're living on an island so it gets old after a while. You'll be staying in the hostel relatively far from everywhere so you'll have to rent a car/bike or bring your own. Good points? Duty Free alcohol. Tourists. The Beach. Quite a good combination
Feel free to comment on any other issues not mentioned!
Expect delays though. Plenty of cock-ups - AVGAS shortage, no flying for 2 weeks due to shortage of life jackets (!), bad planning etc. As a result, batch 3 is now 6 months overdue. Batch 4 is 4 months overdue. Imagine what the rest of the batches are like. Batch 14 just came in last week. I've no idea how the school is going to manage.
cheers
1) Are private students being trained the same way as MAS/AA cadets? Read that private students are being grossly mistreated in MFA. This is in terms of ground school training materials and priority for flying. Also read that students there were segragated and discriminated (treated as 3rd class citizens) by the school.
As a private student in HMA, I can say that we are treated equally, if not better than MAS cadets who have more restrictions placed upon them with respect to leave applications etc.
2) What is the intructor: student ratio?
Not too sure. ~20 instructors for ~200 cadets? (includes FIs and GIs)
3) Are the training facilities (of good standard?
Training facilities are near excellent. Each ground school classroom has a PC and projectors, and it is fully air conditioned. Our sim (ALSIM with glass cockpit) is new and well maintained.
4) Are instructors professional and approachable?
The instructors? Well, there are bad apples (the new CI - a screaming squeaky-voiced know-it-all ex-airforce pilot), Capt S.A (old CFI who's since moved on to head the MPL program) - does two-headed snake ring any bells? and Capt N - (quite a few students have ended up with bruised arms thanks to him, but a decent bloke overall.. among others) A few new arrivals this year : Maktab 01 from the RMAF Training College who recently left (janji keling) and Capt Z (ex-MFA CFI)
Some issues of lesser concern are food and social life.
FOOD! Yes. Typical malay food. Had some health issues recently (20-odd students down with severe food poisoning) but the school changed caterers so I guess it's better now. There's a mamak right outside our school too.
Social life - Keep in mind you're living on an island so it gets old after a while. You'll be staying in the hostel relatively far from everywhere so you'll have to rent a car/bike or bring your own. Good points? Duty Free alcohol. Tourists. The Beach. Quite a good combination
Feel free to comment on any other issues not mentioned!
Expect delays though. Plenty of cock-ups - AVGAS shortage, no flying for 2 weeks due to shortage of life jackets (!), bad planning etc. As a result, batch 3 is now 6 months overdue. Batch 4 is 4 months overdue. Imagine what the rest of the batches are like. Batch 14 just came in last week. I've no idea how the school is going to manage.
cheers
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Crash at HMA
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" PENANG, Feb 10 (Bernama) -- A collected mind and quick action in the nick of time saved the life of a Malaysia Airlines (MAS) trainee pilot whose Diamond DA 40 light training aircraft crashed into the sea two nautical miles south of Pulau Aman near here Friday.
After the aircraft developed an engine problem, Nor Azlan Yazid, 25, kicked its door open and jumped into the water.
"Azlan who wore a life jacket was plucked to safety by a fisherman who saw the mishap," said Civil Aviation Department (DCA) director Ooi Chean Ong when met at the Pantai Hospital here Friday.
Azlan, who was unhurt in the incident, has been admitted at the hospital for observation.
He was flying the plane on a solo training flight when the mishap happened after he left the Bayan Lepas International Airport here for Ipoh at 5.30 pm.
The training was conducted by the Langkawi-based HM Aerospace Flight School, which owned the aircraft.
Ooi said that Azlan, who is from Selangor, was believed to have circled in the air to look for a site to make an emergency landing after the aircraft developed the engine problem."
Has anyone got further news on this? Any investigation reports etc? What wen wrong with the engine? Seems that it has gone hush.
" PENANG, Feb 10 (Bernama) -- A collected mind and quick action in the nick of time saved the life of a Malaysia Airlines (MAS) trainee pilot whose Diamond DA 40 light training aircraft crashed into the sea two nautical miles south of Pulau Aman near here Friday.
After the aircraft developed an engine problem, Nor Azlan Yazid, 25, kicked its door open and jumped into the water.
"Azlan who wore a life jacket was plucked to safety by a fisherman who saw the mishap," said Civil Aviation Department (DCA) director Ooi Chean Ong when met at the Pantai Hospital here Friday.
Azlan, who was unhurt in the incident, has been admitted at the hospital for observation.
He was flying the plane on a solo training flight when the mishap happened after he left the Bayan Lepas International Airport here for Ipoh at 5.30 pm.
The training was conducted by the Langkawi-based HM Aerospace Flight School, which owned the aircraft.
Ooi said that Azlan, who is from Selangor, was believed to have circled in the air to look for a site to make an emergency landing after the aircraft developed the engine problem."
Has anyone got further news on this? Any investigation reports etc? What wen wrong with the engine? Seems that it has gone hush.
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Itz actually from which perspective you see the school from.Well MFA is very well established but the aircrafts are very old(piper warrior and seneca) and the principal is worst guy you can find in the aviation industry.but as cadets all of you have the advantage of going back most of the weekends and itz just one and ahalf hours drive from kuala lumpur.on the other hand hma has the best aircrafts(TRUST ME ON THIS).they use TB10s,diamond da40 and da42 twin star(glass cockpit EFIS/FMS),and they even have a FNPT 2 simulator of the twin engine.but you will have to live in a terrible island known as LANGKAWI.u kant go back everyweekend.air fare is expensive and you are not allowed to go out of the school premises after 7pm.you have clearance until 10pm on the weekends.life is not that great.well apft is ok so far but they are also using warriors and senecas and a few leased eagle 150b.BUT YOU MUST BE AWARE THAT ALL FLYING SCHOOLS IN MALAYSIA ARE FACING SHORTAGE OF INSTRUCTORS WHICH WILL COUSE A DELAY IN THE WHOLE PROGRAMME.THEY WILL PROMISE YOU 60 WEEKS BUT IN REALITY IT WILL TAKE 2 YEARS.that all for now,tc
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Flight instructor position
Hey guys,
I have my Canadian CPL with Multi/IR and my flight instructor rating with 200 hrs instructional..I have been in correspondence with HM aerospace for a flight instructor job with them as soon as possible..I have a family back home that's why somewhere closer to home..From Singapore actually..They told me to submit my documents and they also told me that the processing doesn't take more than a month as they would follow up with DCA with regards to the documents sent by myself.
If anyone has an experience of this sort,do fill me with the details as to how fast DCA works with regards to the situation I have described above.
I was told by MFA that I will not need to do a conversion of my Canadian licenses but a validation of the license is simply required to be able to instruct in Malaysia..
For those of you who have a clue about this,do fill me in with the details...
Thanks guys
I have my Canadian CPL with Multi/IR and my flight instructor rating with 200 hrs instructional..I have been in correspondence with HM aerospace for a flight instructor job with them as soon as possible..I have a family back home that's why somewhere closer to home..From Singapore actually..They told me to submit my documents and they also told me that the processing doesn't take more than a month as they would follow up with DCA with regards to the documents sent by myself.
If anyone has an experience of this sort,do fill me with the details as to how fast DCA works with regards to the situation I have described above.
I was told by MFA that I will not need to do a conversion of my Canadian licenses but a validation of the license is simply required to be able to instruct in Malaysia..
For those of you who have a clue about this,do fill me in with the details...
Thanks guys