there is no piority of nationality in cadetship, Its based on merit of candidates and i believe that its the best that got selected. As for the comment wise, i guess what u meant will be cadets being malaysian has a better advantage as they are younger as compared to singaporeans in the SQ cadet porgramme... this is because Singaporeans can only apply after the age of 26 due to the regulations with RSAF....
SQ cadet programme is open for all Citizens, SGP PRs and Malaysians.
overmars ~ This airline is 75% staffed by Malaysians. We have an advantage over the local boys for a variety of reasons;
Age restriction on the Singaporeans @26 as someone pointed out.
The early jumpers (the few of us that came from MH) cut our teeth with lots of 734 experience, some went on to MH 744 and buggered off across the causeway after serving their time armed with ticket in hand.
Sign the bond (its absolutely no big deal unless you have an ulterior motive, in which case you'll be seriously buggered by no one other than yourself). Several bonds down the line and you'll move to the port seat on the biggest fleet of 777's on the planet.
We don't complain half as much as the local boys, thats for sure
No doubt some malaysians are god's gift to aviation... but 75% malaysians in SQ?! are u sure?? where did all the singaporeans go? the pay not good enough or it must be boomtown in other sectors..
75% is a bit on the high side don't you think? Even if you include the number of captains who were Malaysians went they joined but decided to be Singaporeans.
Anyway, I think what thornycactus meant from his statement is that priority is given to Malaysians for the position of cadet pilot. I can't think of anything other than the age limit. So, partly true I guess.
And I would like to say that I have seen quite a number of Singapore ace pilots in my years, not just Malaysian pilots.
just to let you knw, whether you need to re-do all your subjects and flying depends on one person in CAAS. She's also the invigilator for all the ATPL exams conducted in Singapore.
As far as i knw, most experience flyers who are in the programme, with the exception of Massey graduates(only those with bridging course done, which is rare) have to go thru the entire course. Even for the fortunate few from Massey, they are required to go through the entire ATPL Exams again.
Well, you'll probably get tens of hours exemption, but put it this way, your chance in the interview(which is the biggest pain in the programme anyway) will increase...you'll probably have a smoother shot during your flying phase, but unfortunately, im incline to say that you'll most likely end up going through everything again.
Hope this helps.
Hey thanks for the info. I'm crossing my fingers and waiting for the e-mail. 10 of us (Malaysians) went for the final interview 3 weeks ago. Six of us got through to the medicals. Anyone have any idea how long SQ normally takes to call us up?
Regarding the interview, they (panel of 5 for me, 4 for the others ) didn't ask me any flying related questions - only about the aircraft I flew. They were more interested in my past working experience and academic qualifications. I would say I was actually more at ease at the second interview than the first. Guess I just got lucky.
Hey thanks for the info. I'm crossing my fingers and waiting for the e-mail. 10 of us (Malaysians) went for the final interview 3 weeks ago. Six of us got through to the medicals. Anyone have any idea how long SQ normally takes to call us up?
Regarding the interview, they (panel of 5 for me, 4 for the others ) didn't ask me any flying related questions - only about the aircraft I flew. They were more interested in my past working experience and academic qualifications. I would say I was actually more at ease at the second interview than the first. Guess I just got lucky.
You get called up for SIA interview was because you never opt to go Malaysian Flying Academy (MFA) for your flight training! Congratulation!
SIA is not stupid. SIA has people in MFA doing spying. SIA long knew MFA standard has dropped.
1. Females are auto posted to silkair? But I apply to SIA 1st right?
2. By the time I graduate from uni, I'd be only 22-23 years old, since I dun have NS. Is it advisable to work till I'm 26 to apply or should I try my luck at 23 yrs old?
3. What is the typical schedule like for a Silkair pilot?
4. If u guys encounter a lone female cadet pilot in ur course, would u be inclined to leave her out in a grp?
5. Anyone has any idea how many female pilots are dere in Silkair now?
Oh btw, here's some bg abt myself. Kindly advise me if there is anything I can do to aid in my application. Thanks a lot!
I'm 18 turning 19 dis yr, entering nus to major in econs dis august. No problems with the height and eyesight requirements, took triple sci at o level. Was with SYFC for aeromodelling (sec 3-4), as well as flying with SYFC in jc (no PPL though ). Hmm what other stuff do u reckon I should take up to boost my chances. Really keen to be a commercial pilot (:
Its nice to see female aspiring pilots...
well, you can apply for SIA cadetship after you have graduated from your degree as you are not liable for NS duties. in the mean while, go reflect on why you did not get a PPL from YFC? apitude? pyschomotor? from an employer aspect, i guess they would want to what is the reason for you that you did not get sponsored for the free PPL.
Next issue will be height requirement of 165cm.....thats the athropohy medical aspects.
I have only seen in female self-sponsored cadets but non from the ab-intio programme yet. As for SilkAir, Females are all directed to Silkair for a number of reasons. there are currently about 4 (if i am not wrong) female pilots in SIA organisation, they are mainly from the airforce transporters.
another way you can achieve being a pilot will be applying for RSAF now! get into RSAF and get they to pay for your flying as well as your degree, if it is the cup of tea for you.
Try going back to take your PPL with YFC again since you are still in the eligible range ie. local degree and under 26, if its possible.
It's still an old style Malaysia-Singapore Airways MSA managers from the old days that are still in charge. Mostly Ex-Malaysians in flt ops management jobs. The 26-yr-old policy for Singaporeans dun help the locals. Naturally, "mats" get better chances. "They suck up better too"
It's still an old style Malaysia-Singapore Airways MSA managers from the old days that are still in charge. Mostly Ex-Malaysians in flt ops management jobs. The 26-yr-old policy for Singaporeans dun help the locals. Naturally, "mats" get better chances. "They suck up better too"
Fantastic! 101% true!
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I hope you guys can give some opinions with regards to the following matter .I'm currently pursuing a part time degree at NUS(Mechanical Engineering).I graduated from Singapore Polytechnic with a Diploma in Aeronautical Engineering and I also joined SYFC during poly though I didn't obtained the ppl.
I've applied for SQ's cadet pilot programme last year only to be turned down due to age limit(22 then).Hence,I decided to do a part time degree at NUS and I've also applied for the officer(engineering) position with SQ.I am currently waiting for their response.Is it advisable to work for SQ in another position(engineering officer/flight dispatcher) while doing my studies?I've a great passion for flying and my long term goal is to fly with SQ .However,my short term goal is to work with an aviation company in a technical field while I complete my studies as I really don't want to lose touch with aviation.Is there any other way I could boost my chances of getting into SQ's cadet pilot programme?Do I stand a lower chance of being selected cause I took up a part time degree as opposed to a full time one?I sincerely hope you guys can shed some light on this.
Just work your way till your 26 and try SQ again...thats the best way for locals, if your financially strong, perhpas a CPL/IR on your own will bring you to where you want.
part-time degree is alright it is not a concern.
Do you know what a flight dispatcher role is? your studying thus i dont think that will be suitable as flight dispatcher roles are shift-work duties. although CAAS do not need licensed flight dispatchers, but you will need to do a flight dispatch certification course (FOM1 and FOM2) with a designated centre. SG do not have a license for Flight dispatch. Go do some homework in this field if you want to get a job in flight operations. this programme can be sponsored if you got a job which experience is not a concern but this will come with a 2 yr bond if I am correct.
i do not see any passion from you in terms of flying with the fact that you are from YFC but no PPL yet your not doing anything about it. You may try to go think about this point and again, go back YFC to complete your free PPL if possible.
hi guys, i just wanna know more abt the age restriction at 26, this is the 1st time i ve read abt this rule. i presume that limit is a minimum n not a maximum for ab-initio pilots. the singapore airlines website doesnt indicate the min. age req. what. is this just hearsay? i m actually quite worried n alil angry perhaps, if the 26 rule is true, i ve to wait for at least half a year b4 i can apply after i graduate frm uni. this is terrible.
hi i dun think the guys wld mind a lil female companionship in flight school.
btw just to let u know i tried some fancy flying too in the syfc when i was 17 but didnt go all the way, sadly.
my only advice to you is that u shld concentrate on getting that degree 1st for backup, and while u r in uni,invest some money on a joystick and microsoft flight simulator(some call it a computer game). the game really helps in honing one's directional sense(at least for me), even though many have claimed its flight characteristics are rather different frm actual flight dynamics.
erm, yes, female pilots get streamed to Silkair only, dunno why.
anyways,good luck! i am holding onto my dream as well!
I dropped by the interview room in STC recently and noticed a number of interesting things:
1. Polo T-shirts.
2. No neck ties.
3. 77th Street/Far East/Emo Punk accessories.
4. MS Flight Simulator aircraft ratings and hours.
I'm not kidding about the last one! Haha!
The point I'm trying to make is that this job means a lot to many of us. Just getting called up for the interview is worth celebrating, I feel. So guys and gals, if you treasure this once-a-lifetime shot at a job you think is the bees-knees, please put your best foot forward and impress upon the Captains that you're capable of living up to their expectations.
Some of the cadets processing the application forms were nice enough to suggest to those inappropriately dressed to return with proper attires, some were nice enough to run up to the office to photocopy certificates for the interviewees. If you're reading this and you do get the 2nd interview, you guys know who to thank! Basically, we know what you're going through sitting there waiting for the room number to buzz and we would like you to have the best chance possible.
However, what you do after the interview is entirely up to you! Haha!