My SIA Interview Experience (v long)
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Originally Posted by cruisercruiser
Hi 9M,
Thanks for the info. Considering that a post graduate degree, which will cost me about $20k (for eg masters of science in engineering), will only earn me a chance for the interview, I think saving the money for an MFA CPL/IR is more realistic since I'll have a license in hand to possibly gain experience.
hmm... any comments?
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Thanks for the info. Considering that a post graduate degree, which will cost me about $20k (for eg masters of science in engineering), will only earn me a chance for the interview, I think saving the money for an MFA CPL/IR is more realistic since I'll have a license in hand to possibly gain experience.
hmm... any comments?
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Weigh the pros and cons...before making any big decision. Improving oneself doesn't only mean academically. If you look at the SIA application carefully, you roughly know what they want and look for....
Follow your dream but don't be blinded by it...
Follow your dream but don't be blinded by it...
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Originally Posted by 9M-
Hi,
very tough choices . If u get a master and reapply they can deny your application but at least u have a master degree. If u get a cpl/ir which will cost you about 70000$, 50000$ more than the master, if you cant get employment what are u going to do with that? Anyway like i say it is tough unless u dont mind working out of singapore then getting the cpl/ir will be a better choice. If u r really rich get the cpl/ir and master wil be the best combination
very tough choices . If u get a master and reapply they can deny your application but at least u have a master degree. If u get a cpl/ir which will cost you about 70000$, 50000$ more than the master, if you cant get employment what are u going to do with that? Anyway like i say it is tough unless u dont mind working out of singapore then getting the cpl/ir will be a better choice. If u r really rich get the cpl/ir and master wil be the best combination
I'm nowhere near rich! I am saving very hard for the $70000K needed for the course in MFA. If I remember correctly from the package they sent me some years back, the 70k does not include lodging and food. The school has a limited number of hostels and I think those will be reserved for airline sponsored cadets? Students may have to stay away from the airport and commute to the school everyday.
I don't mind flying in malaysia. Like you said there'll be more opportunities there compared to singapore.
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Originally Posted by cruisercruiser
Hi,
I'm nowhere near rich! I am saving very hard for the $70000K needed for the course in MFA. If I remember correctly from the package they sent me some years back, the 70k does not include lodging and food. The school has a limited number of hostels and I think those will be reserved for airline sponsored cadets? Students may have to stay away from the airport and commute to the school everyday.
I don't mind flying in malaysia. Like you said there'll be more opportunities there compared to singapore.
Cheers!
I'm nowhere near rich! I am saving very hard for the $70000K needed for the course in MFA. If I remember correctly from the package they sent me some years back, the 70k does not include lodging and food. The school has a limited number of hostels and I think those will be reserved for airline sponsored cadets? Students may have to stay away from the airport and commute to the school everyday.
I don't mind flying in malaysia. Like you said there'll be more opportunities there compared to singapore.
Cheers!
Opportunity wise yes looks much brighter than in singapore. Just quote you an example that might boost the morale of those that are private candidates. Got a singaporean who went to mfa, completed the whole course and with just 200hrs in hand, was accepted by transmile a malaysia cargo airline and now doing his type rating conversion
So dont give up guys If you are meant to fly, dont let anyone put you off. Even if SIA dont want you, they are blind 
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Have to agree with 9M. Your attitude is what a lot of potential pilots do not have. I have seen guys who got rejected by SIA and they just give up their hopes and dreams. Something about SIA that I am kind of against...giving only a chance to an individual...if you don't make it, you don't make it. If you have that passion, go for it, regardless of whether SIA accepts you or not. Sometimes they are just blind as what 9M had said. Stick with your heart, at times the harder way out may just be the better way out. Cheers.
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Originally Posted by 9M-
Got a singaporean who went to mfa, completed the whole course and with just 200hrs in hand, was accepted by transmile a malaysia cargo airline and now doing his type rating conversion.
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Originally Posted by Knightwhosays_NI
No kidding, that's pretty cool. So what does it cost? The SGD70k cruiser mentioned?
Really encouraging to hear about success stories and knowing that there are people out there taking the same route.
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Originally Posted by cruisercruiser
The package I received 2 years back quoted about RM$150,000, which approximates to about S$ 68K plus. Bear in mind that was 2 years back.
Really encouraging to hear about success stories and knowing that there are people out there taking the same route.
Really encouraging to hear about success stories and knowing that there are people out there taking the same route.
MFA : http://www.mfa.edu.my
HM Aerospace : http://www.hmaerospace.com
Asia Pacific : http://www.asiapacificflighttraining.com
Well for those that just want to fly for a private pilot license the following are some flying clubs to choose from :
Johor Flying Club : http://www.johorflyingclub.com
Elite Flying Club Johor : http://www.eliteflyingclub.com
Fras Flying Club Johor : http://www.frasflyingclub.com.my/home.php
Subang Flying Club KL : http://www.subanghighflyers.com/index.htm
RSFC KL : http://www.rsfc.com.my
ESB Flying Club KL : http://www.esbfc.com/home.html
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Diploma?
Hi guys,
Really envious and happy for all those who have made it. It will really be my dream come true.
Does anyone have any comments / suggestions / or experience to share? This is my situation.
1) I am a Engineering Diploma holder.
2) Applied and got 1st interview in May 2005. Didn't get through.
3) Been sending in applications about once evry three months since Jun 2005 till now. No reply.
4) Is SIA still taking in Diploma holders?
5) I heard that if fail 1st interview, can try again, but it has been 10 months, I am so worried I won't be given another chance...
6) I really want to fly. Can anyone advise?
And I will work hard for it. You bet.
Appreciate any advice
Thanks guys.
Really envious and happy for all those who have made it. It will really be my dream come true.
Does anyone have any comments / suggestions / or experience to share? This is my situation.
1) I am a Engineering Diploma holder.
2) Applied and got 1st interview in May 2005. Didn't get through.
3) Been sending in applications about once evry three months since Jun 2005 till now. No reply.
4) Is SIA still taking in Diploma holders?
5) I heard that if fail 1st interview, can try again, but it has been 10 months, I am so worried I won't be given another chance...
6) I really want to fly. Can anyone advise?
And I will work hard for it. You bet.
Appreciate any advice
Thanks guys.
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1) Good stuff, they like engineering pple.
2) The fact that they called you up before, shows that they were satisfied with your academic qualifications. Many guys don't make it the first time either, so don't worry too much about it. Think about the possible reasons why they didn't let u thru to the 2nd round tho.
3) They process a lot of applications, so it's possible that they've overlooked yours. Nothing much you can do except to keep trying, unless you know someone who can help highlight your application to the HR pple e.g. captains, other SIA staff.
4) SIA is still taking in diploma holders, as long as you've fulfilled the basic pre-requisites (O lvls).
5) AFAIK, there's no limit to the number of times one can go for the 1st interview. Heard that the time between the 1st interview and next application has to be 6 months, altho I can't confirm that. So you WILL be given a 2nd chance, unless for some reason you've been blackmarked.
6) Go for it! Keep applying. In the meantime, get yourself a degree. The higher your education, the higher your chances.
Btw, how old are you?
2) The fact that they called you up before, shows that they were satisfied with your academic qualifications. Many guys don't make it the first time either, so don't worry too much about it. Think about the possible reasons why they didn't let u thru to the 2nd round tho.
3) They process a lot of applications, so it's possible that they've overlooked yours. Nothing much you can do except to keep trying, unless you know someone who can help highlight your application to the HR pple e.g. captains, other SIA staff.
4) SIA is still taking in diploma holders, as long as you've fulfilled the basic pre-requisites (O lvls).
5) AFAIK, there's no limit to the number of times one can go for the 1st interview. Heard that the time between the 1st interview and next application has to be 6 months, altho I can't confirm that. So you WILL be given a 2nd chance, unless for some reason you've been blackmarked.
6) Go for it! Keep applying. In the meantime, get yourself a degree. The higher your education, the higher your chances.
Btw, how old are you?
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Thanks Knight!
I'm 28 this year. I heard that looks play a part even for Cadet Pilot selection.
Is this true? Yes I will work hard for it and join you guys.
Thanks again. After waiting for 10 months, another 10 isn't a problem...
The reason why I'm afraid to upgrade myself academically is because I am afraid I get my second chance before I graduate.
I don't remember saying or doing anything that can get me blackmarked though...geez...I wish I know why it is taking so long...
Oh, you mentioned that someone can help to highlight it to HR? I know of a few 1st officers, how can they help?
I'm 28 this year. I heard that looks play a part even for Cadet Pilot selection.
Is this true? Yes I will work hard for it and join you guys.
Thanks again. After waiting for 10 months, another 10 isn't a problem...
The reason why I'm afraid to upgrade myself academically is because I am afraid I get my second chance before I graduate.
I don't remember saying or doing anything that can get me blackmarked though...geez...I wish I know why it is taking so long...
Oh, you mentioned that someone can help to highlight it to HR? I know of a few 1st officers, how can they help?
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From what I know...
to add to Knightwhosays_NI...
Looks do play a part in the sense that you must look presentable.(It's not a modelling show) How you present yourself is important, how confident you are and such. As I said, it's not an oral exam, it's a conversation that you have to keep with the interviewers or panel. If you go there shabbily, not neatly shaven, higlighted or long hair, looking like a cool dude, all these will definitely not pass you through.
It's not only about upgrading academically. You can take a PPL, or even advance to do a CPL/IR, etc... It can also be in terms of your job(working overseas, expanding your own horizons)...or even languages you speak or such.
Another comment is don't keep sending your apps so frequently. It can annoy them. They get hundreds of apps and if those that did not get in keep sending in apps with the same thing on them, they will ultimately blacklist you.
to add to Knightwhosays_NI...
Looks do play a part in the sense that you must look presentable.(It's not a modelling show) How you present yourself is important, how confident you are and such. As I said, it's not an oral exam, it's a conversation that you have to keep with the interviewers or panel. If you go there shabbily, not neatly shaven, higlighted or long hair, looking like a cool dude, all these will definitely not pass you through.
It's not only about upgrading academically. You can take a PPL, or even advance to do a CPL/IR, etc... It can also be in terms of your job(working overseas, expanding your own horizons)...or even languages you speak or such.
Another comment is don't keep sending your apps so frequently. It can annoy them. They get hundreds of apps and if those that did not get in keep sending in apps with the same thing on them, they will ultimately blacklist you.
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Originally Posted by billkill
From what I know...
to add to Knightwhosays_NI...
Looks do play a part in the sense that you must look presentable.(It's not a modelling show) How you present yourself is important, how confident you are and such. As I said, it's not an oral exam, it's a conversation that you have to keep with the interviewers or panel. If you go there shabbily, not neatly shaven, higlighted or long hair, looking like a cool dude, all these will definitely not pass you through.
It's not only about upgrading academically. You can take a PPL, or even advance to do a CPL/IR, etc... It can also be in terms of your job(working overseas, expanding your own horizons)...or even languages you speak or such.
Another comment is don't keep sending your apps so frequently. It can annoy them. They get hundreds of apps and if those that did not get in keep sending in apps with the same thing on them, they will ultimately blacklist you.
to add to Knightwhosays_NI...
Looks do play a part in the sense that you must look presentable.(It's not a modelling show) How you present yourself is important, how confident you are and such. As I said, it's not an oral exam, it's a conversation that you have to keep with the interviewers or panel. If you go there shabbily, not neatly shaven, higlighted or long hair, looking like a cool dude, all these will definitely not pass you through.
It's not only about upgrading academically. You can take a PPL, or even advance to do a CPL/IR, etc... It can also be in terms of your job(working overseas, expanding your own horizons)...or even languages you speak or such.
Another comment is don't keep sending your apps so frequently. It can annoy them. They get hundreds of apps and if those that did not get in keep sending in apps with the same thing on them, they will ultimately blacklist you.
I have a degree in Computer Engineering and have been working for almost 2 years... after reading all the posts here and elsewhere, I am again fired up to go for my passion and dream of flying for SIA. I applied in Feb 2004 before my graduation and was disappointedly rejected after the 1st round. That time I was quite disillusioned. As I do not have perfect eyesight, I kind of cool down on the intention... now after some working experience, I find myself going in the wrong path in my career. I wish to be a career pilot with SIA again... Through these years, I came to know that at my 1st attempt I am not 26 yrs old yet, and also my eyesight is not as bad as 500 degree of correction. I am preparing my application as well as brushing up my aviation knowledge and hope to send in soon.
I am just worried on the technical questions especially one engines and implicit details on certain parts of aircraft. During my 1st attempt in 2004, I felt that the interviewers did not really like my way of explaining how a plane fly. Do I really need to know exact all these?
In fact the most difficult IMO, is why you want to be a pilot? Difficult to answer so not to be seen as lame or arrogant or politically correct.
In the meantime... all the best to all pilot wannabe and flying diehard...
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Originally Posted by sgcloudchaser
In fact the most difficult IMO, is why you want to be a pilot? Difficult to answer so not to be seen as lame or arrogant or politically correct
Good luck.
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applying for SIA...
I plan to apply for MAS and SIA cadet pilot after completion of my diploma in mechanical engineering next year. Any advice from fellows, how to make my application outstanding, and get selected for interview?
For example, army training background, acheive good results.
By the way, what type of individual they really looking for?? of course interested in aviation, and enthusiast of becoming pilot, other than this??
Anybody out there could help me figure out??
thanks...
For example, army training background, acheive good results.
By the way, what type of individual they really looking for?? of course interested in aviation, and enthusiast of becoming pilot, other than this??
Anybody out there could help me figure out??
thanks...
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Originally Posted by thk917
I plan to apply for MAS and SIA cadet pilot after completion of my diploma in mechanical engineering next year. Any advice from fellows, how to make my application outstanding, and get selected for interview?
For example, army training background, acheive good results.
By the way, what type of individual they really looking for?? of course interested in aviation, and enthusiast of becoming pilot, other than this??
Anybody out there could help me figure out??
thanks...
For example, army training background, acheive good results.
By the way, what type of individual they really looking for?? of course interested in aviation, and enthusiast of becoming pilot, other than this??
Anybody out there could help me figure out??
thanks...
Demonstrate that you have initiative instead of just expecting things to be done for you.
Practice this because at the interview it will be evaluated. You still have 1 year + to develop this part of you if it has somehow been stunted.
For example, IF you post a question here like: I've looked all over this forum as well as in the Wannabes Forums but I can't seem to find an answer to this topic.... you might be more likely to get an answer.
You are asking for something that has already been asked many times over and answered.
Look for it.
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Well I have to agree with billkill on the part that SIA is so heartless.
Totally shattered me when I was told that there is no need for me to attend the medical coz I know that means no more ab initio scheme for me.
Well I've heard of 2nd officers going thru as well but really, no one seems to have 1st hand information on that...mostly 2nd hand info.
Also, I'm a sucker for academics....hate studying and I'm a grad so only way is to get MBA or some other masters of sorts but that's gonna take 2 yrs...not sure if having gone for courses in the military school and serving up appointments that requires more leadership and responsibilities constitutes an upgrading though.
However, with so many posts going on abt not giving up, I'm gonna try re submitting the application so help me GOD.
Totally shattered me when I was told that there is no need for me to attend the medical coz I know that means no more ab initio scheme for me.
Well I've heard of 2nd officers going thru as well but really, no one seems to have 1st hand information on that...mostly 2nd hand info.
Also, I'm a sucker for academics....hate studying and I'm a grad so only way is to get MBA or some other masters of sorts but that's gonna take 2 yrs...not sure if having gone for courses in the military school and serving up appointments that requires more leadership and responsibilities constitutes an upgrading though.
However, with so many posts going on abt not giving up, I'm gonna try re submitting the application so help me GOD.
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Hi, Knightwhosays_NI
HI Knightwhosays_NI vbmenu_register("postmenu_2439972", true); ,
Thanks so much for your information, it is nice sharing.....
do you have any news about CPP apply outsider of SG, how large the pool of SIA will accept outsider
did the selection process same as in local SG....and if have beee selected, is it chance to enter SIA subsidies but not SIA itself? thanks for you reply
Thanks so much for your information, it is nice sharing.....
do you have any news about CPP apply outsider of SG, how large the pool of SIA will accept outsider
did the selection process same as in local SG....and if have beee selected, is it chance to enter SIA subsidies but not SIA itself? thanks for you reply
