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Old 6th Jan 2013, 03:41   #1 (permalink)
 
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WPC Indian RTR ( A ) Exam Schedule for 2013

For all those giving the RTR exams for the year 2013 here is the link containing all the important details including last dates for online filing

http://www.wpc.dot.gov.in/Docfiles/R...edule-2013.pdf

As always a couple of important details .

1. DD should be taken from SBI bank only

2. Apply for the next attempt before the results of the current attempt is published . Otherwise you might unnecessarily miss the next attempt .

3. Dont waste time till the last day to apply online or for printing the admit card . Quite often the website has been reported to be not working the day before the exam or before the last date to apply

Good Luck

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Old 10th Jan 2013, 15:43   #2 (permalink)
 
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I have uploaded the document to scribd should the above link not work at certain times

WPC RTR EXAM SCHEDULE 2013
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Old 11th Jan 2013, 18:13   #3 (permalink)
 
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Hello,

I am going to answer the Part 1 based on foreign FRTOL. Will someone please suggest if the exam pattern is the same as last year (jan 2012). Is it enough to study from Mr N K singhs notes. I have got his notes from a friend .It is important for me to clear part 1 in january as my frtol has already expired.. any suggesion is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance..
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 09:06   #4 (permalink)
 
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I had given my RTR in 2008 and i do not remember my user id and password to log in to their website.. is there any alternative way..
PLease help
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Old 12th Jan 2013, 18:26   #5 (permalink)
 
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@virus90

Seems like they've discarded the old database of user accounts. So in that case you're supposed to re-register with them i.e. a fresh registration is required. Should not be an issue.
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Old 4th Feb 2013, 07:35   #6 (permalink)
 
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Download Admit Card for RTR(A) Examination to be held at Mumbai from 11th Feb 2013.

Admit Card

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Old 1st Mar 2013, 07:55   #7 (permalink)
 
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The application window for the Delhi attempt beginning 15th April is now open

The last date for online filing is March 14th

While the results of the Mumbai attempt have not yet been released please apply for the next attempt as they might release the result only after the last date of online filing for the Delhi attempt
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 03:24   #8 (permalink)
 
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WPC Indian RTR ( A ) Exam Schedule for 2013

What's the best way to study to crack these exams ? Any recommended books or is taking classes the best way to go about it ?

Also is it a better option to get a Canadian cpl and then convert direct or is it worth the headache to give part 1 and 2 in India ?
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 04:05   #9 (permalink)
 
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@clearblueskyy

If you are at present in the US , then head over to Canada and get a Canadian CPL and RT
Then use that at the time of conversion .

If you are already in the India then clear both Part 1 and Part 2 . The advantage of clearing part 1 and part 2 is that you can get an RT license with lifetime validity and never have to worry about it ever again
When you convert a Canadian RT you will only get validity for 5 years . If you are lucky enough to find a job within the 5 years you can use the 30 hours of flying within the past 3 years to renew it without giving any exams
But you will still get in renewed only for 5 years

If you are in India and cleared all the other papers and the RT exam is the only thing that is stopping you from getting the DGCA CPL then by all means go to Canada and get it done

The RT exam is not easy and requires a significant amount of coaching from an experienced instructor for Part 1 of the exam .
For Part 2 its basically two oral exams and is more of self study
The first is with a WPC engineer who will ask you questions based on your 10th and 12th std physics ( basic concepts of electricity and electronics )
The second will be a DGCA or AAI representative who will test your aviation knowledge and ask questions on ICAO etc

You need to pass both Parts in order to be considered passed in the exam . If you pass Part 1 and fail in Part 2.....for the next attempt you will have to pass the Part 1 exam again before proceeding to Part 2

I can recommend a book by RK Bali for RTR . He has released a new 2013 edition which is available at the Sterling Book store in Mumbai ( or you can purchase online )

Word of advice . There are a lot candidates who keep thinking that Canada is an option and hence dont give the RT exams their level best .
They keep attempting the exams multiple time half heartedly and then give up . Then when they apply for a Canadian Visa and gets rejected and they are back to square one

So please give the exams your level best ( if you are attempting it )

These RT exams are designed mainly for the use of Pilots . However Aircraft Maintenance Engineers in India are also required to hold an RT and license and as you can imagine they find it quite hard ( especially Part 1 ) since they have never flown an airplane before or talked on an aircraft Radio

In my RT class there are pilots from all ranks , everyone from fresh CPL holders to airline captains ( since RTR A was valid only for 5 years for those that got it issued prior to 2010 ) to retired Air Force Pilots
There were student Aircraft Maintenance Engineers as well .

Here is quote my instructor said to us on the first day " If an AME who has never flown an airplane can pass the exams in the first attempt......why can't you ? "


P.S : Incase you are wondering I did pass in my first attempt
I think the WPC engineer really liked my answers and are what turned the tables in my favour....

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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 10:37   #10 (permalink)
 
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WPC Indian RTR ( A ) Exam Schedule for 2013

@cyril

Hey man thankyou for such an illustrative answer to my query. While I do believe that the rtr examination can be cleared in a single attempt, however I have been told that the candidates on any given day are subject to favoritism within the exam hall. I've had people relate past experiences and this is what they had to say. So in this case what are the chances of clearing on merit and what kind of preparation is required ? Are notes sufficient and is there a fixed syllabus ?

Yes the frtol is the last hurdle and I am also considering Canada but how long is the process? Is acquiring a Canadian cpl much like the gleims in the US ?
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 12:08   #11 (permalink)
 
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What is the procedure to convert temporary RT (5 years validity) to a life time RT.

I have an Indian RT (PASSED BOTH PART 1 & 2 ) issued in August 2009 which is valid till august 2014.

I do have more than 30 hours of flying in previous year.

Do i still have to give part 1.

Even then if my licence is renewed will they give me a 5 years validity license.

If that is the case how do i get a lifetime validity instead of a temporary one.

Any help will be really appreciated.

Thank you
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Old 4th Mar 2013, 05:04   #12 (permalink)
 
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@clearblueskyy

Notes alone are not going to help . You need a certain amount of coaching and tips on how to speak and write the answers . The answers that we are used to speaking on the radio are not what the WPC examiners are looking for in Part 1

Hence the reason coaching is strongly recommended

You can buy the book by RK Bali for RTR exams from Sterling Book House

Your chances of clearing on merit are hard to predict . But Certain places like chennai has higher failure rate than say Delhi or Mumbai

I dont know about the procedure for Canadian CPL and RT but it has been discussed at length time and again on PPRuNe . Just search for it and you should find a few threads

@pilot.india

As per my knowledge and this circular ( check item no. 5 http://www.wpc.dot.gov.in/DocFiles/copcircular1.jpg )

http://www.wpc.dot.gov.in/DocFiles/R...tification.pdf

You should be able to renew the RTR A license on the basis of your 30 hours of flying experience within the past 3 years
You should also be able to renew it for lifetime validity as well provided you pay the 10,000 rupees DD amount .

If you did not have the 30 hours of flying experience only then you would have to give Part 1 of the exam . When you pass Part 1 you can renew it for lifetime

You can only renew it from the Regional Licensing Office from which it was issued to you and looking at the date of your exam sounds like Kolkota

The earliest you can renew the RT license would be 3 months before expiry ( I dont know if this rule has changed )

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Old 6th Mar 2013, 04:27   #13 (permalink)
 
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can someone post a link to the checklist ,my browser doesn't seem to upload it

need details regarding DD from sbi

cheers,
CBS

EDIT : got it ,finally works !

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Old 6th Mar 2013, 15:45   #14 (permalink)
 
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Mumbai Results out

Guys check the WPC website , results are out.
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Old 7th Mar 2013, 13:10   #15 (permalink)
 
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Congrats to those that passed the exams

http://www.wpc.dot.gov.in/docfiles/Result-Mumbai-13.pdf

@clearblueskyy

I have a friend who gave the RT exam both part 1 and part 2 for the first time in the Mumbai attempt and he managed to pass

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Old 7th Mar 2013, 16:41   #16 (permalink)
 
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For those that passed the Part 1 and Part 2 exam . Please fill the UNDERTAKING form as well given on the result sheet .

You fill the first option in the UNDERTAKING wherein you declare that you do not hold any RTR license issued by the WPC .

A few tips while applying

1) TYPE out the Annexure I A form instead of filling it with pen
Examination

2) Take a printout of the result page and highlight your name and submit this as part of the application

On the Back of the DD ( as usual SBI only ) write Your Name , Exam roll number , Location , Month and Year of the exam

Keep a copy of the DD with you just incase...

3) Use a 100 Rupees stamp ( instead of the 50 Rs) on the Self Addressed Envelope . The postage rates have increased and there is an additional service tax as well .
On the Envelope write FROM address of the RLO and TO address where you want it to be sent
Under the Stamp write PLEASE SEND BY SPEED POST . This should ensure that they send it by speed post .

4) Use a good quality Self Addressed Envelope and make sure you tape the edges . Mine was all torn by the time it came back and the address was almost illegible

5) Send the application to the RLO by Speed Post or registered post and keep the proof slip with you until the day you receive the license in hand

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Old 8th Mar 2013, 17:47   #17 (permalink)
 
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Thanks guys great thread. Subscribed.
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 11:35   #18 (permalink)
 
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Guys I have an RTR-P valid till 2015, I want to get an RTR-A license, what is the procedure? Do I have to apply for both part 1 and 2 or just part 1 alone? Thanks.
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 11:40   #19 (permalink)
 
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If you want RTR A license you need to pass both Part 1 and Part 2 .

Once you pass the exam you surrender the RTR P license to the WPC and get a new RTR A license with lifetime validity ( by paying the 10,000 rupee DD )

For those of you undergoing self study for the RT exams i recommend the following book .
But coaching atleast for Part 1 of the exam is still recommended

Sterling Book House - About Us
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Old 14th Mar 2013, 11:46   #20 (permalink)
 
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Is it too late to apply now for the Delhi attempt? Last date according to the PDF file was 14th March for online.
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