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Hi folks, I have finally read all pages of this thread and I learned a lot here about the CX Cadet Pilot Programme. I understand that it is a good option for young guys with zero or just 250hs if they work as SO until finally upgrade to FO, then build 1000hs and get another job in an airline where he/she could become a captain in even 5 years. For the guys in their mid-late 30s (or even early 40s, if they hired) would be a bit complicated because you could never become a captain before retire. If try to get out as soon you reach 1000hs as FO, well, your age would be next to 50. But suppose a guy that love aviation, love to fly, love airplanes, crazy schedules, flight attendands, layovers, etc, etc....and this guy is pilot just for hobby but his career dream 20 years ago was to become a Flight Engineer (or something like that). In this case, the CX would be great for him especially considering he is single and has other source of income (real estate properties for rent). Am I right about it? This guy is my cousin. We will finish CP and Av. degree in december. I am on my early 40s and want to apply for the programme. If hired, spend some years as SO, build 1000hs as FO and jump to corporate aviation in my country. But that guy (late 30s) want to fly just for small freight companies or air taxi because the Flight Engineer job has gone. I wanna encourage him to consider SO at CX as alternative to his dream. I know he would be happy even if stays in this position until retirement. LOL. Any advices welcome. If I am wrong about it, please correct me. Sorry about the structural sentences as english is my second language. Thank you.
Last edited by Pilotofutur; 4th Aug 2012 at 05:10.
Something to think about (but if you truly had read every page of this thread you'd know the answer):
Whats say I'm rich & have decided it'd be a cool thing to occupy my spare time in the real estate market. I'll buy all the houses around your rental properties & rent them out for around 60% less than you. I'll be undercutting the market & screwing you over. But you see, it's my "passion".
I mean, what do I care if it screws up your income, livelihood or that local market? After all, I'm rich, can afford to do it, it won't affect me & it's just something that looks like fun for a while....
I'm really, really passionate about real estate. Hope you don't mind though.
PS: I submitted my purchase approval to the council housing department almost 2 hours ago! When will they reply to me???? But what if I don't have any property experience, can I still buy? And what about nationality about buying property? Can I get involved? Is there an age limit to get involved? I mean, it would be INSANE for me to actually call the Housing Department to get 100% accurate information!!
Last edited by ChinaBeached; 5th Aug 2012 at 08:31.
Actually you go on a Boeing aircraft or the Airbus fleet. Airbus guys start on the 340 and after about a year also fly the 330. The plan with the 350 is to have guys flying both the 330 and 350 whilst CX get rid of the 340. I would really advise against asking to go on the Airbus as an SO, 4 years of much shir rosters compared to the other.
Hello, i'm new here and would just like to ask a few questions for those who have had experience/been successful.
I'm really really interested in the second office cadet programme but have no previous experience in flying. I've always loved planes and dreamt as a child to be able to fly one one day. However, due to facilities where I live in the UK, I never had the opportunity to become involved in aviation.
I know that there is a programme for those who have low flying experience but not sure if they accept those who have none. I do meet all the criteria they want/prefer: I am british born chinese with first language English Cantonese 2nd language), Full permanent HKID, Achieved the GCSE/A-Level required and working towards a degree, Good fitness and health, 173cm height, 20 years of age and I definitely have the passion they require to become part of their team.
Please help me out on a few questions I want cleared up and give me some helpful tips on applying. Thanks in advance:
1) When does the 61 week training start? I'm currently in my final year of university and will (hopefully) graduate in summer 2013. Is it ok to try applying now even though I won't be able to begin any sort of training for another year?
2) Are there interview facilities in UK? I won't be heading back to hong kong for a year or two now (unless it's crucial to go there for the interview)
I would really appreciate for someone to help answer these questions and also give me some helpful tips. Thanks so much.
I have heard that the ICAO test format has been changed recently after the leave of Brian Slade. For example, the vocab part was removed, and it will be like an interview JUST asking some casual questions.
Anyone got more information about this bloody test? I will attend it in a week, so need help urgently!!
best thing is just try and relax and pay attention during the test. Your english seems pretty decent and its really a test to see if you can understand english and use english in other settings.
When i did mine a couple years back it included:
- Explaining words/phrases
- Listening to recordings of conversations in different accents and explain what was going on
- Explain a picture
- Pick items from a list and explain why you chose them
- Watch a short video and explain what happened etc.
The hardest bit is probably listening to the recordings as the accents can be quite strong so you will have to pay close attention to what is being said.
The ICAO English test at CX has changed for the better. After my last test Brian recommended me attend presentation classes, watch American comedy shows and talk about strange topics like Lady Gaga which I thought was wierd, eh? This did not prepare me for the test I did last week.
I love aviation and flying and I know Brian lied to me because all my friends say I communicate well. I did study in England after all.
The test I did last week included general questions about aviation topics; questions on the topics heard on audio conversations; aviation picture description and related questions and aviation video description and related questions.
The ladies in the test room relaxed me and I felt good because I was talking about my favourite topic – flying. I feel it is fair to be asked questions about aviation. This is the career we are preparing for.
I was recommended to look at the following sites to develop my aviation English skills on a continue basis: "skybrary", "LiveATC.net", "ATC readback" and "Air Crash Investigations"
I think the people who now do the testing really want us to succeed, and my advise to you is go out and start learning English for Aviation. Anyone you have to buy coffee, lunch or dinner for is not interested in helping you succeed in your dream to be a pilot.
Come on do you think people are blind? Are you from one of those aviation English organizations which give course on ICAO english? This looks like just another attack on Brian Slade and a piece of advert.
Anyway, i don't know if the ICAO test has really changed but i will take this guy's words with a pinch of salt. Mind you!