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Forum: Rotorheads
24th Apr 2016, 21:13
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Perhaps you should check what the rules are in...

Perhaps you should check what the rules are in Class D? In Class D, there is no ATC separation of VFR from IFR. Only IFR and SVFR are seperated from each other. Well that is how it is supposed to be,...
Forum: Rotorheads
23rd Apr 2016, 20:53
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Yes that's the report. What annoyed me and made...

Yes that's the report. What annoyed me and made me lose faith in the system was the conclusion that it was all my fault for not understanding what RCS meant. Not that the term RCS isn't defined...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Apr 2016, 21:44
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

I was on a flight from France to Aberdeen so no I...

I was on a flight from France to Aberdeen so no I didn't request a specific routing, just to cross the class D. I was instructed to cross overhead the runway threshold (west end, can't remember the...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Apr 2016, 20:40
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Yes we know that. But it is wrong that ATC has...

Yes we know that. But it is wrong that ATC has the power to out VFR traffic on a collision course and yet has no responsibility for the aftermath. It is power without responsibility. If you are just...
Forum: Rotorheads
22nd Apr 2016, 20:37
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Once I got visual with the traffic (at pretty...

Once I got visual with the traffic (at pretty close range) it all happened very quickly. There was no other VFR traffic. I believe there was one IFR around but it was more than 10,000' above. It was...
Forum: Rotorheads
21st Apr 2016, 22:53
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Had a look at AIP 1.6 para 1.2. Nope, it doesn't...

Had a look at AIP 1.6 para 1.2. Nope, it doesn't tell me what radar control service is, it just talks about a situation where there is unknown /lost traffic. In my case both lots of traffic were...
Forum: Rotorheads
21st Apr 2016, 22:47
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

For the first part of you post you are defining...

For the first part of you post you are defining radar control. But not radar control service. Not very useful. I want to know what "service" I can expect, not how it is derived. (Service in quotes...
Forum: Rotorheads
14th Jun 2013, 13:56
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Well first of all, CAP493 is MATS - manual of air...

Well first of all, CAP493 is MATS - manual of air traffic services - and doesn't form any part of pilot training syllabus nor air law nor licensing exams. It's a document written by the ATC club for...
Forum: Rotorheads
13th Jun 2013, 11:09
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Good egg, I think the main thrust of my argument...

Good egg, I think the main thrust of my argument remains that "radar control service " is not defined anywhere, unlike the (overly complicated!) ATSOCAS.

So although you talk about training, that...
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Feb 2013, 18:01
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Well it was the main thrust of my Airpox report,...

Well it was the main thrust of my Airpox report, but completely ignored by the panel. I lost faith in that system at that point.
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Feb 2013, 09:59
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Inverted, yes I read that before. It names the...

Inverted, yes I read that before. It names the RCS and says when it can and cannot be given etc, but it doesn't really say what it actually is! Plus I would say that MATS is not a document covered in...
Forum: Rotorheads
8th Feb 2013, 00:02
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

I haven't looked again recently, but for me the...

I haven't looked again recently, but for me the biggest issue remains that RCS is not defined anywhere. Controllers seem to somehow know what it means, but how are pilots supposed to know? It's not...
Forum: Rotorheads
19th Jul 2011, 22:19
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

As an aside, I was impressed when it was...

As an aside, I was impressed when it was explained to me in conversation with a senior ATCO in Aberdeen, that their training policy is always to get controllers if possible to avoid vectoring 2 IFR...
Forum: Rotorheads
19th Jul 2011, 07:34
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

10w in general I agree with nearly everything you...

10w in general I agree with nearly everything you say, for my particular event it comes back to my perception of being "forced" onto a collison course by ATC, having my attempts at applying vertical...
Forum: Rotorheads
17th Jul 2011, 13:44
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Sumburgh - many thanks for your support, part of...

Sumburgh - many thanks for your support, part of the reason for this thread is to decide what if any action I should take, in terms of an Airprox the outcome will of course be "no risk of collision",...
Forum: Rotorheads
17th Jul 2011, 13:39
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

10W thanks or the detailed response. Clearly you...

10W thanks or the detailed response. Clearly you are quoting the "party line" and you are correct within the context of the systems currently applied by ATC. My point is that the system is IMHO not a...
Forum: Rotorheads
17th Jul 2011, 10:07
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Shy - if you read the post again you will see...

Shy - if you read the post again you will see that I did ask for a change of clearance but it was refused

10w your last para first, yes of course I do think self separation is a good thing.

2nd...
Forum: Rotorheads
16th Jul 2011, 23:25
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

I agree Troy, and that is why I didn't hit him!...

I agree Troy, and that is why I didn't hit him! But being under RCS made me reluctant to deviate from my clearance, resulting in me getting closer than I would have done if I were just on a general...
Forum: Rotorheads
16th Jul 2011, 22:17
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Thanks Sumburgh A few thoughts: The doc...

Thanks Sumburgh

A few thoughts:

The doc you quote from is an ATC doc, not normally read by pilots.
The doc still doesn't actually say what the service entails, only the conditions for giving...
Forum: Rotorheads
16th Jul 2011, 19:38
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

A bit of a dearth of replies makes me think...

A bit of a dearth of replies makes me think everyone else is as much in the dark about RCS as me. So next question, whilst in receipt of RCS in Class D when VFR, what should ATC do with regard to...
Forum: Rotorheads
16th Jul 2011, 14:28
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Thanks TCAS. My issue was not one of difficulty...

Thanks TCAS. My issue was not one of difficulty in maintaining VMC. I will await any further posts from pilots (because I realise I didn't know what this service means, and I suspect there are lots...
Forum: Rotorheads
16th Jul 2011, 12:35
Replies: 65
Views: 22,542
Posted By HeliComparator

Radar Control Service in Class D VFR

So, I am in UK, in receipt of a traffic service, I am approaching Class D airspace on a VFR flight, I request transit, I am instructed to route to a specific point within the Class D at a specified...
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