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Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Mar 2017, 11:49
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Headmaster. I appreciate your thoughts on the...

Headmaster. I appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Whilst I acknowledge that you haven't previously considered the polygamy issue and haven't fully yet, it appears that you're quite open to...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Mar 2017, 11:00
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

No. Not about polygamy per se. Everyone knows...

No. Not about polygamy per se. Everyone knows that were we arguing for the 'right' to marry multiple people that the Aussie public would put the kibosh on that in an instant. So the pro SSM try to...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Mar 2017, 08:26
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Fair enough jonkster. Don't engage then. I put it...

Fair enough jonkster. Don't engage then. I put it out there that you can't demand 'equal rights' and not demand polygamy under the same principle. I reckon that's being intellectually dishonest. In...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Mar 2017, 07:28
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

So you're not prepared to extend those 'equal...

So you're not prepared to extend those 'equal rights' to others? Talk about bigotry.

See how this works?

Have you been reading the last bunch of pages Jonkster? My thoughts on the issue are...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Mar 2017, 06:41
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

The 'rights' angle isn't consistent. I'd love to...

The 'rights' angle isn't consistent. I'd love to find out why those who push the 'equal rights' principle are not advocating for those who want to marry multiple partners? Why are you not championing...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
27th Mar 2017, 06:37
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Speaking of democracy. The issue of SSM has been...

Speaking of democracy. The issue of SSM has been put to Parliament more than 15'times since 2004. On virtually all of those occasions both sides of Parliament decided to uphold traditional marriage....
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Mar 2017, 04:41
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Oh puh-lease. The default response of the closet...

Oh puh-lease. The default response of the closet totalitarian.

I've resigned previously from an organisation that was heading in a direction i thought was dangerous and that I could no longer...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Mar 2017, 04:34
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Beer baron. I actually commented on the recognise...

Beer baron. I actually commented on the recognise campaign very early on in this discussion and my reservations about it.

There is no way the recognise campaign and the tiny symbol on 31...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
25th Mar 2017, 04:27
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Your formatting was a bit hard to follow Derfred...

Your formatting was a bit hard to follow Derfred so I may not have gotten this 100% accurate but it's in good faith.





We will have to agree to disagree on this one. As an example to the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Mar 2017, 07:38
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Are these causes political in nature? No?...

Are these causes political in nature? No? Therefore they're OK to support.

What if Qantas came out as 'pro life'? How do you think anyone in Qantas who'd had an abortion may feel? Conflicted?...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Mar 2017, 07:36
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Correct. A company's opinion on SSM is irrelevant...

Correct. A company's opinion on SSM is irrelevant in the scheme of things. Like all the actors banging on about Trump, et al, no one gives a stuff what you (as in the Royal 'you') think.

By all...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Mar 2017, 02:46
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Ok. I'll say it again. I don't feel it's...

Ok. I'll say it again. I don't feel it's appropriate for companies to be engaged it socio-political issues- particularly when they're as divisive as this issue is.

I've never argued that Joyce...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Mar 2017, 02:44
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Nice little straw man right there. ...

Nice little straw man right there.



You've got a better memory than I to even remember the first 8 pages! :ok: Like you though I'm pleased thisnthread has been able to run its course.

A...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Mar 2017, 02:14
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

So let me understand this correctly. Qantas...

So let me understand this correctly. Qantas embarks on a political campaign the likes of which it's never previously done and you justify that on the basis of comments I make on this thread in...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Mar 2017, 12:53
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

It's been said a number of times already. I'll...

It's been said a number of times already. I'll just keep repeating the first principles.

It affects fsmilies. It affects society. That means it affects me. It's important to point out that there...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Mar 2017, 08:09
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

What issues do employees in Qantas face if they...

What issues do employees in Qantas face if they are gay? Are they disadvantaged in some way? Are they over looked for promotion? Do they not get a fair go?

There is nil organisational prejudice...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Mar 2017, 06:52
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

The level of support of those causes differs...

The level of support of those causes differs markedly headmaster. Only one issue has been pushed so hard as to rate an almost daily mention in company emails. Only one issue has had their 'flagship'...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Mar 2017, 04:39
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

The hypocrisy is this. Alan Joyce mentioned a...

The hypocrisy is this. Alan Joyce mentioned a number of other causes that Qantas has championed and sure, we've had a R on a Dash 8 for the recognise campaign, a mo on a 737 for Movember and a blue...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
22nd Mar 2017, 17:25
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

The time of day this is posted will make it clear...

The time of day this is posted will make it clear why I'm not posting a longer response. Perhaps more later today. A few excerpts from the dissenting opinions in the US Supreme Court.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
19th Mar 2017, 22:28
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Nope. That's incorrect. Same sex couples have...

Nope. That's incorrect. Same sex couples have been protected under the same de facto legislation as heterosexual couples for a number of years. Just another of the myths that exist.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
19th Mar 2017, 21:15
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

It affects society. Therefore it affects us all.

It affects society. Therefore it affects us all.
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
26th Feb 2017, 03:29
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

I'm not so sure. When Shorten and Labor decided...

I'm not so sure. When Shorten and Labor decided to shoot down the plebiscite and advocate for a parliamentary vote that to me was the first sign that the internal polling wasn't going in favour of...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
26th Feb 2017, 03:17
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Not my point. You know it but I guess people...

Not my point. You know it but I guess people resort to a straw man when their own beliefs tend to not be providing the impetus they want.

This is the next straw man.



Given the history and...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
26th Feb 2017, 03:03
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

With Luke commonly described as post dating...

With Luke commonly described as post dating Matthew and Mark and written at a similar time to Acts which does not record the destruction of the temple in AD64 you've got the Gospel accounts written...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 23:00
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Your knowledge of the bible really is quite...

Your knowledge of the bible really is quite deficient if you're quoting '1500' as part of that sentence!

Of course, having not read it, how can you claim whether what's inside it is relevant...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 22:49
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Wow. Both parents, iving in the...

Wow.



Both parents, iving in the home, every day? You're really stretching things if you reckon that what you're proposing is a substitute for a married relationships between mum and dad.
...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 10:17
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Le Pingouin, are you advocating for those sorts...

Le Pingouin, are you advocating for those sorts of societal structures to be formally enshrined in law in Australia?





reivilo, I've covered this off a few times now. You may not agree. You...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 09:59
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

It's funny how Christians are often accused of...

It's funny how Christians are often accused of trying to 'deny' gay people the 'right' to marry (when really no such right exists and it's something for society to decide in the scheme of things). At...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 05:09
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Adopted or fostered kids would be the 'making the...

Adopted or fostered kids would be the 'making the best of a crap deal'.

Donor sperm and donor eggs is a more interesting one. A more nuanced discussion. I'm done for the day. Maybe another time...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 05:07
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

As a couple a same sex couple have all the...

As a couple a same sex couple have all the protections under law the same as any de facto relationship. That's a good thing as it protects the weaker (financial) of the partners in a relationship...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 02:07
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

I was going to post this the other day. Some of...

I was going to post this the other day. Some of its already been covered but to re-edit will take as long as it took to write originally. Sorry if there is a little bit of repetition of some of the...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 01:55
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

G'day Potsie. Does your example not indicate that...

G'day Potsie. Does your example not indicate that there is a husband who doesn't comprehend the seriousness of marriage and his role as a husband? IE the original principle about the seriousness of...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
24th Feb 2017, 00:04
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

That's a false assertion. I don't care what...

That's a false assertion. I don't care what people do in their personal lives but the issue of marriage and the strength of it is a societal issue. We've seen quite clearly how society is trending...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
23rd Feb 2017, 09:29
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Talk about appalling. This thread was going down...

Talk about appalling. This thread was going down hill and High and Flighty"s comments are appalling. That said, some of the follow up stuff has been equally appalling.

I had a longer response to...
Forum: Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific
22nd Feb 2017, 14:03
Replies: 445
Views: 117,411
Posted By Keg

Qantas has been an 'open workplace' such as you...

Qantas has been an 'open workplace' such as you describe since well before I joined 22 years ago. Theyve had an openly gay CEO since 2008. They didn't need to sponsor the Mardi Gras to send this...
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