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Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Jan 2018, 03:12
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Well, 37 years of working with various government...

Well, 37 years of working with various government agencies for purposes of both research and reporting, ranging from the EPA to local regulatory bodies in multiple states, including CA [shudder], to...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Jan 2018, 01:46
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

The CAB report doesn't just assert, it states,...

The CAB report doesn't just assert, it states, "Based on the Lockheed study, Board investigators prepared the estimated flghtpath chart."

It's absurd, therefore, to purport the chart contains...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Jan 2018, 01:19
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Seriously? You actually can write with a straight...

Seriously? You actually can write with a straight face, when the report says explicitly, "Lockheed Aircraft Corporation...provided a study of the flightpath based both on L-188 performance data and...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Jan 2018, 01:08
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Thanks, this and your other details understood,...

Thanks, this and your other details understood, appreciate the clarification.

So am I understanding correctly that the plane would have had to spin around and head forward briefly in order to...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Jan 2018, 00:52
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

What the report actually says is: "Lockheed...

What the report actually says is: "Lockheed Aircraft Corporation, in response to the Board's request, provided a study of the flightpath based both on L-188 performance data and information...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Jan 2018, 00:12
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Thanks very much for your reply. Only one minor...

Thanks very much for your reply. Only one minor quibble:



You misquote me - I stated that no one asserted it slid inverted. Everyone seems in agreement it at least began its slide tail first...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
31st Dec 2017, 22:33
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Thanks, that what I couldn't tell for sure, and...

Thanks, that what I couldn't tell for sure, and so that's in sync with the report.



No one is asserting the plane slid inverted the entire 820 feet, not even the CAB - hence their comments...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
31st Dec 2017, 06:05
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Your video shows the plane landing on its belly...

Your video shows the plane landing on its belly almost immediately after the railway embankment. The report notes the entire wreckage path, from first impact with the wires to final rest was 1200...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
31st Dec 2017, 05:31
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Re: your video and your comment, "...the CAB...

Re: your video and your comment, "...the CAB scenario of the plane sliding backward and right side up to the final wreckage site."

OK, even I have to chime in here, frustrated with your continued...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
4th Dec 2017, 05:36
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

These 3 files together may clarify the early...

These 3 files together may clarify the early right turn and the meaning of "toll road departure":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkc2m29h0kjjdm5/departure_routing_description.jpg?dl=0...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
4th Dec 2017, 02:31
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

As always, this may be data you've already found,...

As always, this may be data you've already found, but just in case not:
Though NTSB does not have CAB archives prior to about 1965, there is a section of CAB Records in the National Archives at...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Dec 2017, 07:57
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Um, not sure if these will help in identifying...

Um, not sure if these will help in identifying the debris, but I came across PDFs of a few Lockheed L-188 Electra Field Service Digests (from 1958, '59 and '61), containing detailed descriptions,...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
13th Nov 2017, 03:57
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

I definitely wasn't suggesting you obtain autopsy...

I definitely wasn't suggesting you obtain autopsy records - that would be too grim, and I wouldn't be so insensitive.

Instead, the suggestion is to obtain the transcript from the Coroner's Jury...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
13th Nov 2017, 02:26
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Additional records...

1) The corporate records of Northwest Airlines are archived at the Minnesota Historical Society

www2[dot]mnhs[dot]org[slash]library[slash]findaids[slash]00110.xml

The 1961 O'Hare crash is...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Nov 2017, 20:51
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Topo maps and other

Just sent you a PM with some links to topos and 2 planning reports
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Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Nov 2017, 18:35
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Truly thrilled the ALPA archive may be of help. ...

Truly thrilled the ALPA archive may be of help.

I should be clear, I'm not a pilot. But your project is exceptionally intriguing from the standpoint of accomplishing a kind of time travel -...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
9th Nov 2017, 21:34
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Very glad if it ends up helping at all. ...

Very glad if it ends up helping at all.

Also, I didn't see any mention of this in this forum or your PDF, so forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know. And I don't want to get you...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
9th Nov 2017, 05:38
Replies: 420
Views: 145,524
Posted By cordwainer

Extremely poor quality film footage of crash site....

Dear Mr. Hagstrom:
On YouTube there is a video that contains an amateur film of the crash site. I'm not allowed to post URLs, but you can find it easily by knowing the title is "Chicago O'Hare...
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