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Forum: Fragrant Harbour

24th Jul 2017, 02:45

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

The greatest victory is that which requires no...

The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

22nd Jul 2017, 06:29

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

What is the point of discussing what should or...

What is the point of discussing what should or could have been done 10 or 20 years ago?

All I am saying is that B scalers are risking a lot for very little to gain at the moment.

So little I...

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

21st Jul 2017, 10:30

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

List of excuses to stay of B scalers with C...

List of excuses to stay of B scalers with C housing

- going to pull the plug soon, just X more years
- need to pay of mortgage, but then I am out
- only until my kids finished school/ are out of...

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

21st Jul 2017, 00:16

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

Squawk, I don't understand your comments.I...

Squawk,

I don't understand your comments.I don't WANT our package to be changed, I FEAR it could be changed.

All I am saying is:

from a B scalers point of view, the risk of talk failure is...

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

20th Jul 2017, 11:32

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

Interesting point, Frank. I don't know the...

Interesting point, Frank. I don't know the answer.

PS Why is it that when you ask what to expect next/ speculate about the motives of management you either are considered a traitor or a management...

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

20th Jul 2017, 06:22

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

Valid point.If a large enough group steps back...

Valid point.If a large enough group steps back from T&C..

Probably our only leverage at the moment.

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

20th Jul 2017, 04:23

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

Ok, guys, let it out. Feel better know? I...

Ok, guys, let it out. Feel better know?

I repeat my question.

What would you do as DFO if the current talks stall?

I would terminate housing.

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

20th Jul 2017, 02:22

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

Dan, you are right, A was not adjusted for...

Dan,

you are right, A was not adjusted for inflation anymore. But it wasn't cut, can we agree on that?

You are claiming we are "not even really opposing" at the moment.
What other tools are...

Forum: Fragrant Harbour

19th Jul 2017, 16:56

Replies: 39

To B or not to B

Views: 22,650

Posted By Sam Ting Wong

To B or not to B

The status quo :

-C package attracts enough suitable candidates ( suitable as defined by the company and not as seen by most existing CX pilots)

- B scale crew costs are higher than at CX's...

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