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27th Dec 2012, 10:38
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

I'm afraid I fail to see your point, RH......

I'm afraid I fail to see your point, RH... :confused:

I'm convinced things should (must) change @ DGAC (perhaps change is already on the way, at last I hope so) but that's not the point.


I...
23rd Dec 2012, 10:13
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

jcjeant, We have established facts, here. ...

jcjeant,

We have established facts, here.

1/ The BEA wrote a confidential memo.

2/ Lessons from '79 did not prevent Gonesse.

You're linking those two facts into a theory that makes you...
19th Dec 2012, 20:58
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi Lyman, This link made me understand why...

Hi Lyman,

This link made me understand why we were in disagreement a bit earlier, on a specific point: We simply didn't look at the same picture. ;)

Honestly? No. That's not what I see....
19th Dec 2012, 00:44
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Honestly? No. That's not what I see. := ...

Honestly? No. That's not what I see. :=


That's your opinion indeed, I acknowledge that but don't agree.
I have the advantage of being perfectly able to read French, hence I have access to the...
19th Dec 2012, 00:36
Replies: 313
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi jcjeant, The little exercise I made just...

Hi jcjeant,

The little exercise I made just above gives me the opportunity to use its data for a follow-on about that discussion we had some pages ago:
Yes I have really difficulty to imagine the...
18th Dec 2012, 23:37
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

No. Possible/probable indication yes, but not...

No. Possible/probable indication yes, but not evidence. I'm no more an accident investigator than Nick Thomas is, so I too am unable to draw conclusions or say "evidence" with certainty from those...
18th Dec 2012, 22:53
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi Lyman, I'm sorry, but my reaction to...

Hi Lyman,


I'm sorry, but my reaction to that is: Certainly not!
For those to be demonstrably untrue, we need far more than "just" one pic.
Do we have more? In fact yes, see below.


Yes, we...
17th Dec 2012, 18:07
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi philip2412, As stated by DW, all other...

Hi philip2412,

As stated by DW, all other things being the same, yes I think it would have, based on all material available.


If skidding from the start, tyres marks would be notably...
17th Dec 2012, 12:33
Replies: 313
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi Lyman, I'm sorry, I don't understand...

Hi Lyman,


I'm sorry, I don't understand this :confused:


Sure! If, it would :)
But I don't think this contravenes BEA conclusions. As for the material (=the picture ??), as previously...
16th Dec 2012, 23:55
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

No Lyman, I'm sorry but this pic is from page 64...

No Lyman, I'm sorry but this pic is from page 64 of the final report; there are other pics from the runway in pages before and after that. ;)
All those pics show places where Concorde was after the...
16th Dec 2012, 19:49
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Agreed until there... :) ... but I agree...

Agreed until there... :)


... but I agree no more here:
- as per SOPs, the #2 engine would have most certainly been shut down once in flight & above 400ft;
- hence any landing attempt would...
16th Dec 2012, 18:05
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

No, the reverser motor (cause of inop) was...

No, the reverser motor (cause of inop) was replaced before departure, by request of the crew after the plane change (BTSC was the reserve aircraft for that day).


No, the testimonies (in french)...
16th Dec 2012, 17:27
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

After reviewing the 3 firemen testimonies (and a...

After reviewing the 3 firemen testimonies (and a waiting captain's), I note 2 things:

First, even if the 3 firemen were in the same room, they don't give the same exact same location/timing for...
16th Dec 2012, 12:01
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Thanks jcjeant, but there is "only" Me METZNER...

Thanks jcjeant, but there is "only" Me METZNER PoV there.
I see no testimonies. Should I look at other pages? I will try to find something better suited on that blog, but it may require some time....
16th Dec 2012, 10:41
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi SLFinAZ, I agree that we got (with my...

Hi SLFinAZ,

I agree that we got (with my comments in [brackets]):
- sworn testimonies by highly respectable & trained people, [that I never saw quoted in extenso (if you have a reference, I'm...
15th Dec 2012, 09:09
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Always in the interest of accuracy, the actual...

Always in the interest of accuracy, the actual wind was not blowing at 8kt as announced by the TWR, but much less (Reference: Meteo Data, IIRC quoted in the final report, I think the word was...
13th Dec 2012, 23:24
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

From memory, there was indeed a cable (?) fitted...

From memory, there was indeed a cable (?) fitted to the water deflectors on BA fleet, aimed to retain parts of a broken deflector to fly their own way (to a fuel tank, for example).
IIRC that...
13th Dec 2012, 09:00
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi Lyman, I've quoted a number of sources,...

Hi Lyman,

I've quoted a number of sources, established facts and so on.
I'm convinced of the role of the strip. So is the BEA, the AAIB, and a number of other detailed analysis.

You have...
12th Dec 2012, 21:51
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi When I cut meat with a knife, I think...

Hi

When I cut meat with a knife, I think findind bits or traces (juice) of meat on the knife is proof enough that the knife was used. Especially when there is no other meat in the neighborhood...
12th Dec 2012, 17:04
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Oh, but I've no problem with that. :) Indeed,...

Oh, but I've no problem with that. :)
Indeed, we differ on the spacer. Neither of us has conclusive evidences, and both scenarii are possible/sensible. I hope not to give the impression of being...
12th Dec 2012, 10:11
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Once again: I think it was not uncommon...

Once again:


I think it was not uncommon for BA to fill (not overfill) the #5 tank.

If you have data which suggest/prove otherwise, please feel free to share them :)
12th Dec 2012, 09:49
Replies: 313
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi Lyman, I didn't neglect anything: See my...

Hi Lyman,

I didn't neglect anything: See my "analysis" paragraph where A2 & B2 (i.e. the missing spacer, hence the not complete U/C) are quoted. Regarding the "intact" U/C... well, one tyre blown...
11th Dec 2012, 23:56
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Certainly! :D Let's not extend that to the...

Certainly! :D
Let's not extend that to the point of countering established facts, will we please? Because if facts don't matter, then we're not being serious about aviation safety, we're being...
11th Dec 2012, 08:40
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Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Machinbird, the pics in jcjeant's link are the...

Machinbird, the pics in jcjeant's link are the same provided by the BEA in its final report.

jcjeant, thanks for the link, I read it yesterday night :)
I still fail to be convinded, I must say....
10th Dec 2012, 13:56
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Hi Dalek, It was the final report, not an...

Hi Dalek,


It was the final report, not an initial one. Agreed that it "took great pains" (or made a detailled analysis, as I would have written it) about that point.


I've seen disagreements...
10th Dec 2012, 10:36
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Really? You did look at the picture included in...

Really? You did look at the picture included in the report (as shown by another part of your post). I cannot then understand how you came to your conclusion that "It does not mean that they 'fit...
9th Dec 2012, 21:35
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Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

ExSp33db1rd, data about the wheels & tyres of...

ExSp33db1rd, data about the wheels & tyres of F-BTSC are publicly available in the final report §1.6.2.5:



How do you explain the clean transverse cut about 32 centimetres long in the tyre,...
9th Dec 2012, 14:07
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

If the AAIB inspectors were unable to give an...

If the AAIB inspectors were unable to give an informed conclusion, they would have said they have doubts "about everything", they would not have written they agree with the general scenario, don't...
6th Dec 2012, 22:13
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

I agree with your first two points. Not with...

I agree with your first two points.
Not with your third, for 2 reasons:
- a quote from the BEA: "The BEA nevertheless regrets the difficulties encountered by the AAIB investigators and their...
5th Dec 2012, 13:57
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Two points: 1/ I didn't wrote "AF", I wrote...

Two points:
1/ I didn't wrote "AF", I wrote "AF/French". That was meant to include the french part of the manufacturer, the french regulator, the french accident board...
2/ Doesn't AF publicly...
5th Dec 2012, 09:15
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

I understand your view, too. But without...

I understand your view, too.
But without hindsight, how can one judge a solution as efficient or illusionary?
5th Dec 2012, 08:46
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

100% agreed. Yes. But as I noticed in...

100% agreed.


Yes.
But as I noticed in my previous posts, "Not taking action to avoid it" is not what occured.
"Not taking action efficient enough about the whole problem" would be a...
5th Dec 2012, 00:25
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Straw man argument, jcjeant. :ugh: I would...

Straw man argument, jcjeant. :ugh:
I would appreciate that you do not stretch what I wrote until the point of putting words in my mouth that aren't mine. Thanks :)


Can't planes crash? It's a...
4th Dec 2012, 21:54
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

Yep, that's it. Until proven otherwise, of...

Yep, that's it. Until proven otherwise, of course: Errare humanum est, BEA is composed of human beings (I think). ;)
It's not about blind confidence, it's because the report is the most detailled...
4th Dec 2012, 17:07
Replies: 313
Views: 59,415
Posted By AlphaZuluRomeo

If your read precisely what I wrote, you must...

If your read precisely what I wrote, you must have noted that I'm not trying to justify the lawyer's words. In fact, I'm not interested in lawyers fights.
I'm concerned, however, about aviation...
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