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18th Sep 2014, 23:23
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Posted By smiling monkey

Lionair has had a P2F program in the past whereby...

Lionair has had a P2F program in the past whereby their FO's pay to fly through programs run by EagleJet and MSD. Most pay-to-fly FOs would not have any real commercial experience prior to joining....
5th Sep 2014, 02:56
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

My point being the captain stated (on the CVR)...

My point being the captain stated (on the CVR) that he had the approach lights in sight and advised the FO to continue the approach. Runway 09 at Denpasar does not have approach lights. In order to...
5th Sep 2014, 01:26
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

And your point is?

And your point is?
3rd Sep 2014, 17:17
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Not an opinion, but the regulations say, when you...

Not an opinion, but the regulations say, when you are below the MDA or DH and you lose visual reference with the runway, you must conduct a missed approach.

Indonesian CASR Part 91.175

(e)...
3rd Sep 2014, 16:42
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

"We" ? The FO on two occasions said he could not...

"We" ? The FO on two occasions said he could not see the runway. It was only the Captain who 'claimed' to see the the approach lights. And as has been stated many times already in this thread, there...
3rd Sep 2014, 16:35
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

The Indonesian CASR Part 91.175 (c) is quite...

The Indonesian CASR Part 91.175 (c) is quite specific about what needs to be seen to allow descent below the MDA;

91.175

(c) Operation below DH or MDA. Where a DH or MDA is applicable, no pilot...
2nd Sep 2014, 22:02
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Tightcircuit, Indonesian CASR part 91.175 (c) (3)...

Tightcircuit, Indonesian CASR part 91.175 (c) (3) does require the runway, approach lights or threshold markings to be in sight before descending below the MDA. Since there are no approach lights...
2nd Sep 2014, 10:38
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Are you for real?? Please don't tell me you're...

Are you for real?? Please don't tell me you're actually a professional pilot. If you can't see the runway, then how the :mad: are you going to land? Well, I tell you how, you won't land on the runway...
2nd Sep 2014, 08:41
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

I have flown in to WADD over 300 times and about...

I have flown in to WADD over 300 times and about 75% of the time, on runway 09. There are NO approach lights to runway 09.
2nd Sep 2014, 01:33
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

From the CVR transript: At 0708:56 UTC SIC...

From the CVR transript:

At 0708:56 UTC SIC stated that the runway was not in sight

At 0709:12 UTC PIC stated that approach light in sight and decided to continue the approach

.. only...
1st Sep 2014, 14:55
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Where do these clowns get their licenses from?...

Where do these clowns get their licenses from? :rolleyes: They have absolutely NFI :ugh:
13th Jun 2013, 11:00
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

My point is that in the video they were still...

My point is that in the video they were still visual at the minima and perfectly ok to continue the approach. It was when they lost sight of the runway that they quickly and decisively decided to go...
13th Jun 2013, 01:21
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Now, this is how you do it boys ... ...

Now, this is how you do it boys ...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=537103489687891

Not hard is it? Quick, decisive decision to go around. None of this BS, handing over to the captain to do...
19th May 2013, 06:28
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Makes me wonder what aircraft type you fly,...

Makes me wonder what aircraft type you fly, pilotchute? It's usually possible to sight an aircraft 5 miles away on final when you're visual on downwind, in Bali, unless you fly something small like a...
15th May 2013, 16:13
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

I understand this is only the preliminary report...

I understand this is only the preliminary report but I do hope that the final report will mention whether the crew was actually visual or not at the MDA. Many here are assuming that just because the...
2nd May 2013, 12:53
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

The Indonesian NTSC has asked the Australian ATSB...

The Indonesian NTSC has asked the Australian ATSB for assistance in seeking weather reports from Australian flight crews flying in to Denpasar at the time of the accident. This is from the ATSB...
29th Apr 2013, 16:07
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Fatigue may well have played a part. This appears...

Fatigue may well have played a part. This appears to the chronology of events for the aircraft and crew that day from a reliable source.

The aircraft originated from Palu (PLW) in central...
29th Apr 2013, 00:38
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Posted By smiling monkey

And plus, Sully had a very experienced F/O in the...

And plus, Sully had a very experienced F/O in the right hand seat, not just a P2Fer.

Back on topic, the DGCA has asked the NTSC (KNKT) to expedite the investigation and to have it done within 40...
28th Apr 2013, 01:14
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Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

I flew in to DPS a couple of days ago and saw the...

I flew in to DPS a couple of days ago and saw the wreckage, now placed along side the runway covered in tarpaulin. This is what's left of the 89.1 million dollar, 2 month old aircraft.
...
23rd Apr 2013, 10:10
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Those photos are not taken at WADD, philipat....

Those photos are not taken at WADD, philipat. Looks definitely like Bandung. What relevance of those photos are to this accident, is anybody's guess.



How long is a piece of string? The full...
22nd Apr 2013, 10:27
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

@philipat

I have a personal interest in the findings of the investigation as I operate in to WADD on a regular basis. Like with all accident investigations, we need to learn from it in order the minimize the...
22nd Apr 2013, 01:42
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Whoa, so no need to wait for the accident report...

Whoa, so no need to wait for the accident report then; philipat has worked it all out. PPRUNE arm chair experts does it again!! :rolleyes:
21st Apr 2013, 11:28
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

In the last three years that I've been flying in...

In the last three years that I've been flying in this part of the world, there have been many incidents and a few accidents some involving friends, or friends of friends and yes, of course they talk...
21st Apr 2013, 10:38
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Obviously close friends of the crew were told...

Obviously close friends of the crew were told their version of events and this then spreads like a domino effect to outer circles. Rumour network in Indo airlines is large; from the trivial who slept...
21st Apr 2013, 02:47
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

According to this news report on local Indonesian...

According to this news report on local Indonesian TV, the results of the investigation by the NTSC (KNKT) should be available in 4 months time. The reason for the delay is due to the fact that the...
19th Apr 2013, 14:23
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

It has been suggested in this thread...

It has been suggested in this thread (http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/512476-lionair-plane-down-bali-23.html#post7797407) from 'inside information' that the F/O retracted the flaps to 15 degrees...
17th Apr 2013, 23:27
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

If this is infact true, then that explains a lot...

If this is infact true, then that explains a lot of things. And IF true, how then can a 2000 hour FO not understand the consequences of doing such a thing, so low to the surface and at a relatively...
17th Apr 2013, 13:15
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

These guys will. Looks like they've just caught a...

These guys will. Looks like they've just caught a prized catch out of the sea at Kuta beach....

detikNews : situs warta era digital...
17th Apr 2013, 12:55
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

My logbook reveals that I've landed at WADD 220...

My logbook reveals that I've landed at WADD 220 times, with 65% of the time on 09 which is the prevailing runway for most of the year, so I guess I'm qualified to say the cell and associated downpour...
17th Apr 2013, 12:45
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Does that include your first paragraph? :rolleyes:

Does that include your first paragraph? :rolleyes:
16th Apr 2013, 05:09
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

I've been flying in and out of DPS for the last...

I've been flying in and out of DPS for the last three years and have a good appeciation of the weather conditions there at this time of year. Considering the METAR gives the temperature as 30 C and...
15th Apr 2013, 22:01
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Surely the weather couldn't have been that bad if...

Surely the weather couldn't have been that bad if there were surfers surfing nearby? :rolleyes:
14th Apr 2013, 15:07
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

And how is this any different from all of the...

And how is this any different from all of the other accident/incidents discussed on pprune in the past? Leave the the investigation to the professional investigators; wait for the official report to...
14th Apr 2013, 11:41
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

And therein lies the difference between the two...

And therein lies the difference between the two airlines (which includes their SOPs and safety culture); one continues the approach, the other goes around.
14th Apr 2013, 04:13
Replies: 974
Views: 539,164
Posted By smiling monkey

Sure, it may have been a contributing factor, but...

Sure, it may have been a contributing factor, but you would hope that a professional would not continue the approach and landing once they have lost all visual references. Basic airmanship 101 which...
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