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3rd Jul 2014, 19:11
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

From the Irish Times - date below: Coroner...

From the Irish Times - date below:

Coroner Court

Wed, Jun 11, 2014, 14:56

A jury has returned verdicts of accidental death at the inquest into the deaths of six people killed when their...
4th Feb 2014, 00:36
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

It is indeed a human factors accident, but a...

It is indeed a human factors accident, but a highly complex one. If you doubt this, read all 244 - repeat - 244 pages of the report, then read this entire thread of 1350 - repeat - 1350 posts. and...
2nd Feb 2014, 17:39
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Thanks, Jack - that was the point I was seeking...

Thanks, Jack - that was the point I was seeking to clarify. With this hidden problem with the torque, it just seemed to me that this preponderance to roll sharply to left with certain flight settings...
2nd Feb 2014, 16:43
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

From what I have read, and I have read the whole...

From what I have read, and I have read the whole report, I don't see how you could know that. Could you explain?
1st Feb 2014, 21:10
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Thanks for the clarification, Bang Or West. It's...

Thanks for the clarification, Bang Or West. It's a very detailed and thorough report and does take a lot of reading and digesting!
1st Feb 2014, 18:19
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Correct, but: (report, p 142) which I think...

Correct, but: (report, p 142)
which I think was in my mind when I made my previous comments.
30th Jan 2014, 17:26
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Thanks, BangOrWest. I stand suitably chastised...

Thanks, BangOrWest. I stand suitably chastised and have deleted the incorrect and wildly speculative part of my post.
I note that you have so far contributed three posts to this very long thread and...
30th Jan 2014, 12:18
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

I take your point. Because the crew were busy...

I take your point. Because the crew were busy putting the seats back, as I previously mentioned, they left late. They made two attempts (below minimums, true) then held for twenty minutes while they...
30th Jan 2014, 10:25
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

From Page 110 of the report (on my PDF copy there...

From Page 110 of the report (on my PDF copy there are no page numbers; p 110 is the PDF location)

So although they had corrected from the known torque difference, at this point the asymmetry, due...
29th Jan 2014, 21:26
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

True - but they would have got away with it if,...

True - but they would have got away with it if, when the PF pushed the throttles past the gate and then pushed them forward again, the aircraft would have climbed for the go-around instead of banking...
29th Jan 2014, 20:43
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

What a tangled web. No wonder it took three years...

What a tangled web. No wonder it took three years to produce the report.
If you read the report thoroughly, you will find that it was indeed caused by differential power, due to a fault in the...
4th Sep 2013, 15:55
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

This was mentioned early in this thread and,...

This was mentioned early in this thread and, although I appreciate that there are now 1200 plus posts, I would humbly suggest that posters read them before posting supposedly new information.

To...
17th Mar 2013, 21:47
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Quite - a point I made in post 1171.

Quite - a point I made in post 1171.
15th Mar 2013, 19:16
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Well, you have a lot more faith than I, bearing...

Well, you have a lot more faith than I, bearing in mind that I do live here (Spain) and know something about false trails, lost evidence, hidden papers, and the rest. Still, as we say here 'Vamos a...
7th Feb 2013, 16:36
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

It's actually the second interim statement and...

It's actually the second interim statement and the third publication. It is, as you say a summary and it consists of three pages which basically state that the investigation is ongoing and has...
3rd Feb 2013, 11:59
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

From the lawsuit: The crew made three...

From the lawsuit:

The crew made three attempts at landing. I am no expert but I would have thought that they would have detected this imbalance on the first attempt and compensated accordingly....
26th Jan 2013, 17:47
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Yes. Follow this link: US lawsuit taken...

Yes. Follow this link:

US lawsuit taken against manufacturers of Cork Airport crash plane (http://www.thejournal.ie/cork-airport-crash-lawsuit-733366-Dec2012/?r_dir_d=1)
29th Dec 2012, 17:19
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

This smells a bit, too. The lawyers won't sue a...

This smells a bit, too. The lawyers won't sue a company with no money, but Honeywell and co are fair game. A question to those of you who have flown this aircraft. If there was a fault, as they are...
10th Aug 2012, 14:39
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Yes - did. It didn't appear so I repeated the...

Yes - did. It didn't appear so I repeated the post and was told I couldn't post because I'd just posted the same post. Eventually my post appeared - see above.
10th Aug 2012, 07:58
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Still nothing on their website: Air Accident...

Still nothing on their website:
Air Accident Investigation UnitFull List of Reports (http://www.aaiu.ie/aviation/aaiu/reportsevent/index.asp?lang=ENG&loc=1280)
12th Mar 2012, 16:52
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

The tangle of companies involved in this sorry...

The tangle of companies involved in this sorry saga is at my post 974. Flightline have update their website and if you can bear to fight through the mess of flash player drivel you will find that...
6th Mar 2012, 20:59
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

So are you saying that two Captains were the boss...

So are you saying that two Captains were the boss (sic) of Flightline or Air Lada? The crew of the crashed Metroliner at Cork were hired by either Air Lada or Flightline or possibly both but neither...
24th Feb 2012, 18:08
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Which company - there were at least three...

Which company - there were at least three involved, possibly two more on the Spanish side?
18th Feb 2012, 15:02
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

I don't know, Big Frank. Having a particular...

I don't know, Big Frank. Having a particular interest (I live in Valencia) I did a bit of work via the web and managed to track the history of the Spanish companies involved - originally based here...
14th Feb 2012, 16:51
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Ladies and gentlemen, you have it in a nutshell....

Ladies and gentlemen, you have it in a nutshell. Every organisation involved in this scenario continuues to function with impunity. There are far too many holes in this organisational and...
7th Jul 2011, 11:59
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Thanks to both of you - I think you've seen that...

Thanks to both of you - I think you've seen that red herring off.
6th Jul 2011, 21:42
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

I've a feeling that this is all a bit of a red...

I've a feeling that this is all a bit of a red herring but as it is known that the previous night sector was a mail flight (I believe it was a Royal Mail charter), does anyone know whether it would...
12th Jun 2011, 12:31
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

EASA Report

Thanks for the link, SWBKCB. What a load of old hokum. Flightline BCN can continue to operate provided they don't use their Metros. Guess where those Metros will appear next - Air Lada,...
22nd May 2011, 17:07
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

BCN Flightline

Well, this company clearly doesn't let the small matter of a lost aircraft and the death of six people get in the way of their progress. They've now acquired an Embraer EMB 120 Brasilia:
Profile on...
21st May 2011, 20:35
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Air Lada, Flysur and Andalus

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I think Kroack is right here. Flysur and Andalus both went out of business within a year (2008).
20th May 2011, 19:35
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Spanish Metroliner accidents

I found these two at:
Accident Database: Aircraft Crash Details > Swearingen 226 Metroliner (http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/aircraft_detail.cgi?aircraft=Swearingen+226+Metroliner)

Swiftair...
19th May 2011, 20:26
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Responsibilities

Tinwald: Therefore there will be an easily identifiable organiser, (to the investigators), of that basic requirement to operate that schedule.'
You quite cleary know very little about the...
18th May 2011, 21:37
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Video File Link

dldkjdfljk - Thanks for this, it worked fine. A well-researched programme - well done BBC 1 NI.
18th May 2011, 18:05
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

Air Lada

Air Lada operate one Metro which is owned by Euro Continental Air, who also own a second Metro which is operated by Flightline BCN. It is my belief that these three companies are one and the same but...
16th May 2011, 17:54
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Posted By Sunnyjohn

CAA Aerodrome Operating Minima Directive

Pity it's not in Spanish . . . !
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