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Forum: Military Aviation
13th Jul 2016, 15:08
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

I'm advocating that we do do investigations, but...

I'm advocating that we do do investigations, but that we should not automatically make changes to stop the event happening again.

We should look at the effect on the rest of life that any changes...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jul 2016, 18:46
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Where do I start..? 1. Many many thousands...

Where do I start..?

1. Many many thousands of cars used that road "on that one day". The vast majority were not hit.

2. As Salad kindly pointed out, it's a probability not a risk, and it was...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jul 2016, 18:41
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Well done salad. You have pedantically pointed...

Well done salad. You have pedantically pointed out the semantic error in my post.



Feel better now?
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Jul 2016, 15:17
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Everybody invites risk the moment they leave...

Everybody invites risk the moment they leave their oxygen tent in a hardened bunker.

Life is a sequence of mostly uninvited risks. Why single out aviation?

The risk of being hit by a falling...
Forum: Military Aviation
5th Apr 2016, 06:40
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Tuc I'm considering an experiment where...

Tuc

I'm considering an experiment where people start threads on increasingly more random subjects and we time how long it will take you to turn it into a thread about your hobby horse and start...
Forum: Military Aviation
18th Mar 2016, 11:48
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Cows You can't have it both ways. If you...

Cows

You can't have it both ways. If you accept one death per airshow or one Shoreham per year, then you accept it. If you decide that something needs to be done then you have just accepted...
Forum: Military Aviation
18th Mar 2016, 09:42
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

A question for everybody. Is there a number...

A question for everybody.

Is there a number you have in mind for an acceptable number of deaths caused by Airshows and aviation in general?


The reason I ask is that we really need a target....
Forum: Military Aviation
18th Mar 2016, 09:26
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Thomas Car driving is not de-risked at all. ...

Thomas

Car driving is not de-risked at all.

Give yourself 10 seconds and you could come up with 10 ways to save hundreds of thousands of lives each year.

Off the top of my head.
1. 5 point...
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Mar 2016, 12:55
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

pasta The problem is merely that what is...

pasta

The problem is merely that what is found acceptable on the road is 1000s of times more dangerous than what is found acceptable in aviation.
If we accept that what is most important is...
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Mar 2016, 12:19
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

I'm probably not making my point well. One...

I'm probably not making my point well.

One final try.

Imagine you are the minister for transport, and your bonus has been directly linked to a reduction in accidents deaths. £1 per life saved....
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Mar 2016, 11:38
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

You really are not listening to what I'm saying...

You really are not listening to what I'm saying Cows.

Everything we do affects others.
When we drive a car we add risk to others who have not volunteered for the extra risk like pedestrians....
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Mar 2016, 11:15
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Exactly. You have chosen to take risks to have a...

Exactly. You have chosen to take risks to have a less dull life. Exactly as I believe spectators should have the right to chose their risk level.

If spectators were allowed to stand along the edge...
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Mar 2016, 09:06
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Yet you drive a car every day without worrying...

Yet you drive a car every day without worrying about killing others or being killed, despite the fact that the chances of either are vastly higher than your chances of being killed by a passing...
Forum: Military Aviation
17th Mar 2016, 08:27
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

It is my attitude at all times. It goes...

It is my attitude at all times.

It goes along with my attitude that I always obey rules but try to change the ones I disagree with.

I have never been considered a risk taker, but I do crave the...
Forum: Military Aviation
16th Mar 2016, 06:39
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

abgd If you are dead, you are still dead....

abgd

If you are dead, you are still dead. Why is dying in a crowd any different?
Forum: Military Aviation
16th Mar 2016, 05:22
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Yes. I am a firm believer that people should be...

Yes.
I am a firm believer that people should be allowed to choose their own risk levels in life rather than have them mandated by a nanny state. People should be allowed to chose whether to sit...
Forum: Military Aviation
15th Mar 2016, 05:30
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

There we are in absolute agreement. I...

There we are in absolute agreement.
I personally believe that ticket buyers should sign an agreement accepting risk and be allowed much closer and crowd line rules should be relaxed.
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Mar 2016, 15:26
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Cows, with respect that is utter tosh. Even...

Cows, with respect that is utter tosh.

Even a cursory google will show that the location of airshow crashes is scattered all over the place.

Off the top of my head I can't think of any other...
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Mar 2016, 13:18
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

As someone who displayed military aircraft...

As someone who displayed military aircraft occasionally and in a fairly haphazard way over a period of over a decade, nothing could be further from the truth, no matter how it might be seen from the...
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Mar 2016, 06:47
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

I'm interested to know if you apply this standard...

I'm interested to know if you apply this standard to other aspects of life other than aviation?

What I mean is that trying to protect others from the consequences of your actions becomes...
Forum: Military Aviation
12th Mar 2016, 08:48
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

"Honestly, who here could ever be comfortable...

"Honestly, who here could ever be comfortable with high performance, swept wing, ex-mil jets being flown at public displays in high energy manoeuvres, by part-time FJ pilots with low type experience,...
Forum: Military Aviation
8th Feb 2016, 11:47
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

It is not quite so simple, and more than one pair...

It is not quite so simple, and more than one pair of eyes is used, but essentially yes.

This is not unreasonable.

Eyes are very different from cameras, and have a far wider field of view...
Forum: Military Aviation
8th Feb 2016, 11:45
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

What exactly is your height argument/question? ...

What exactly is your height argument/question?

What are you suggesting?
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 17:08
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

I am not arguing whether there is plenty of...

I am not arguing whether there is plenty of energy to crush a car. Obviously there is more than enough in both cases.

I am merely pointing out that flying straight and level at 400Kts and 100ft...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 16:44
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Ok 1/2mv2 says kinetic energy of 9000kg...

Ok

1/2mv2 says kinetic energy of 9000kg Hunter at 400 kts is.......erm....
189112500J
....a lot less than a 394000Kg A380 at 150kts!

The V squared makes a significant difference, but not...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 16:01
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

In the same way that all displaying aircraft...

In the same way that all displaying aircraft could just turn up and land, yes he could, but it would not really be a display.

Lots of aircraft up close to photograph though....
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 15:53
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

You don't display for the spotters. You display...

You don't display for the spotters. You display for the kids and families who love to watch loops and rolls.

Personally I always find the guys with camera bags/patches/ovies/notebooks creepy.
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 15:12
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Yes, that's my point. Just to clarify...

Yes, that's my point.

Just to clarify further.

A tiny fast jet flying straight and level over a busy road delivers less energy to the impact than an airliner, therefore it is no more insane to...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 09:47
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

No, he is not. There is every comparison. ...

No, he is not.

There is every comparison.

Firstly, the 100ft pass was straight and level. Very low risk.
Secondly, even at "200kts" (your speed not mine) the energy in the hunter is...
Forum: Military Aviation
7th Feb 2016, 07:00
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

If you apply your safety experience to the rest...

If you apply your safety experience to the rest of life, how does it work? What about the billion cars that pass each other every hour of every day with 150MPH closing speeds mere feet apart on the...
Forum: Military Aviation
15th Sep 2015, 10:41
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Pitts That's all very well, but as we all...

Pitts

That's all very well, but as we all know, this forum is monitored by the media, and a frenzy can be triggered by the asking of questions in a pejorative manner such as your :

"why start...
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Sep 2015, 09:18
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

My further apologies for inadvertently opening...

My further apologies for inadvertently opening another diversion from the thread. I wasn't referring to the vintage Firefly.

I was taking about the little yellow trainer just to make the point...
Forum: Military Aviation
14th Sep 2015, 06:43
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Excuse me if I'm missing something, but isn't an...

Excuse me if I'm missing something, but isn't an entry gate a bit irrelevant for a high performance jet anyway?

Surely a hunter could come in at 600Kts/100' and just zoom climb with a slow pitch...
Forum: Military Aviation
13th Sep 2015, 16:54
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

This has been done to death already..... My...

This has been done to death already.....

My apologies, it was on the other thread.

I've never displayed as a civvy, but my understanding from what people are saying is that in civvy displaying...
Forum: Military Aviation
11th Sep 2015, 14:57
Replies: 1,757
Views: 987,514
Posted By Tourist

Thai camel, was it......?:hmm:

Thai camel, was it......?:hmm:
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