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Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
4th Aug 2017, 10:53
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

They’re not good comparisons, though. Both those...

They’re not good comparisons, though. Both those airports have substantial passenger traffic, so don’t need to maximise freight in the way Manston would need to.



History would suggest...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
4th Aug 2017, 07:04
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I can't recall any point at which Manston could...

I can't recall any point at which Manston could be described as "thriving".......
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
14th Jul 2017, 16:05
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I've often wondered what's in it for Dr BW?

I've often wondered what's in it for Dr BW?
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
17th May 2017, 16:35
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

These were exactly the words used by Wiggins when...

These were exactly the words used by Wiggins when they ran the place.

It turned out to be untrue then, and it's untrue now.
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
14th May 2017, 17:39
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

From Volume 1: "The airport would provide...

From Volume 1:

"The airport would provide almost immediate relief to the pressing situation that is causing £2bn in potential trade to be lost to the South East each year we remain without...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
12th May 2017, 14:24
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

And yet London still manages to get it’s fresh...

And yet London still manages to get it’s fresh produce without Manston. Where’s it coming from?



I think the most fundamental fact is that no one has ever made any money out of running the...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
10th May 2017, 15:00
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

And who did you expect to underwrite the losses...

And who did you expect to underwrite the losses made by the airport?
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
29th Apr 2017, 08:20
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

What use is that? The A380 is not a freight...

What use is that?

The A380 is not a freight aircraft, so won't be operating freight flights in and out of Manson. End of.

And as for passengers, if you really believe there's enough demand out...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
28th Apr 2017, 13:39
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I made the point several months ago that – in my...

I made the point several months ago that – in my opinion – the Manston thread was being misused to suit the motives of people who were linked with the future of the Manston site. But no action was...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
5th May 2016, 07:13
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

So have Riveroak applied for authorisation? And...

So have Riveroak applied for authorisation? And if so, was it granted??
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
2nd May 2016, 15:39
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

The bit about Manston closing is correct. It is...

The bit about Manston closing is correct. It is an ex-airport. The new owners have non-aviation related plans for it's future use.

An American investment company, Riveroak, have expressed interest...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
3rd Feb 2016, 10:03
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Unfortunately, Amazon already have existing...

Unfortunately, Amazon already have existing warehousing elsewhere in the country, and are currently building huge new facilities – again, elsewhere in the country. There are airports with long...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
24th Jul 2015, 15:17
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

That’s not really true though, is it? Manston...

That’s not really true though, is it? Manston doesn’t have a railway station, so 1h 15m is the journey time (at best) to Ramsgate. You’ve then got to find a taxi or wait for a bus in order to make...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
27th Jun 2015, 09:22
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Manston was available to do this for years, and...

Manston was available to do this for years, and quite honestly airlines weren't interested. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
23rd May 2015, 03:12
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

The trouble is the naysayers have been calling it...

The trouble is the naysayers have been calling it right for as long as I can remember....



People have been making this claim about Manston as long as I can remember, and it's no more true now...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
10th May 2015, 08:00
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

The airport has been "given a chance" for many,...

The airport has been "given a chance" for many, many years and has never even come close to being commercially viable.
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
8th May 2015, 14:54
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

In a dramatic election night, one story seems to...

In a dramatic election night, one story seems to have been quite forgotten.

That's right. In the Thanet South constituency, the Manston Airport Independent Party polled 191 votes. Man the...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
22nd Mar 2015, 14:00
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

So basically, they've offered to pay no more than...

So basically, they've offered to pay no more than the asset value of Manston.

Somehow that doesn't fill me with confidence..........
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
22nd Mar 2015, 11:17
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

How can anyone predict what will happen to the...

How can anyone predict what will happen to the aviation industry over the next 25 years?

Playing with scenarios and assumptions over that time frame might as well be a work of fiction.
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
30th Jul 2014, 13:02
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I'm as well informed as most on the subject of...

I'm as well informed as most on the subject of Manston; more realistic as well.



And maybe you should do the same. Start with RiverOak Investment Corp. You do realise what sort of company they...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
30th Jul 2014, 12:22
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Then I hope you have a few hundreds of millions...

Then I hope you have a few hundreds of millions of pounds to spare.....
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
11th Jul 2014, 10:05
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Indeed, which is exactly how I interpreted it. So...

Indeed, which is exactly how I interpreted it. So you have:

Heathrow (x2)
Gatwick
Stansted
East Midlands

Which would make Manston #6. I must admit I was unaware that Birmingham was longer;...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
9th Jul 2014, 16:25
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Unfortunately, Manston Airport is (or was) a...

Unfortunately, Manston Airport is (or was) a business, and no one owes it a living. It's not realistic to expect it's owners to absorb it's losses indefinitely.
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
9th Jul 2014, 15:07
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

They are indeed eloquent words; unfortunately, an...

They are indeed eloquent words; unfortunately, an airport can’t run on eloquent words…..

There is no doubt at all that local businesses found passenger services out of Manston useful....
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
7th Jul 2014, 08:55
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I would broadly agree. Unfortunately, cargo tends...

I would broadly agree. Unfortunately, cargo tends to be a less profitable business than passengers, so Manston would need a heck of a lot more cargo just to break even.
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
26th Jun 2014, 13:15
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Phileas, Sorry if I'm boring you, but you...

Phileas,

Sorry if I'm boring you, but you seem to have an obsession with the notion that a criminal act of deception may have occurred.

The "airport businesses" are, for want of a better...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
26th Jun 2014, 12:48
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I think, perhaps, you’re over-complicating...

I think, perhaps, you’re over-complicating things. If you think about it, there were only two parties involved; Ann Gloag and Infratil. So ask yourself this – did Ann Gloag obtain Manston Airport...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
25th Jun 2014, 15:01
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

And yet it still wasn’t even close to...

And yet it still wasn’t even close to profitability……

Let’s be honest here. The KLM flights were never more than 50% full, and I recall that loadings had actually begun to decline before Ann Gloag...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
25th Jun 2014, 12:28
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Phileas, old chap. You said You said And...

Phileas, old chap.

You said You said And then you said

You may not have actually used the word "illegal", but there was a clear inference that a) she's potentiality operating on the wrong...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
25th Jun 2014, 11:38
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Sorry, but that’s nonsense. Whatever I may...

Sorry, but that’s nonsense.

Whatever I may think personally about the morality of Ann Gloag’s behavior, I can’t see that she’s done anything illegal. I can’t see that she’s broken any laws,...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
27th Mar 2014, 10:24
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

That’s an interesting view. Interestingly,...

That’s an interesting view.

Interestingly, many years ago when the late and unlamented Wiggins took over the place, they initially proposed developing it as a freight ‘hub’. Unfortunately, rather...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
20th Mar 2014, 11:06
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

I can't see it would make the slightest bit of...

I can't see it would make the slightest bit of difference.

MSE didn't handle a significant volume of passengers, nor was it likely to. The impact of it's closure on other airports in SE England...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
19th Mar 2014, 17:17
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Well it's never stopped several previous owners...

Well it's never stopped several previous owners having a go! Perhaps, with KLM on board, Ann Gloag thought it had a bit of momentum



I agree. Who knows, maybe you're right. At £350K plus losses...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
19th Mar 2014, 16:53
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Hidden agenda? You realise that Ann Gloag can’t...

Hidden agenda? You realise that Ann Gloag can’t just close the place down and start building houses on it……. If the local authority (and I believe that many councillors are keen on keeping the place...
Forum: Airlines, Airports & Routes
22nd Oct 2013, 12:14
Replies: 2,117
Views: 616,956
Posted By Andy_S

Yeah....... You realise, of course, that you'd be...

Yeah....... You realise, of course, that you'd be responsible for the airports ongoing finances as well.........:}
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