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18th Feb 2014, 13:42
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Posted By Pace

Naah You cannot see the other wheel because...

Naah

You cannot see the other wheel because of curvature of the earth we all know that :E ;) :---------)

Pace
15th Feb 2014, 12:55
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

MadJock don't think this is the place to...

MadJock

don't think this is the place to discuss relationships :E

Sapco2

Is there a Sapco1 ;) Sorry thought it was some new fangled devilish technique you had unilaterally developed :E I...
14th Feb 2014, 18:47
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Sapco I will try your technique in the...

Sapco

I will try your technique in the Citation when I have no PAX as don't want to stuff it in front of them :{ they only get good landings ;)

Pace
14th Feb 2014, 13:51
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

SSD Then its possible he got too slow and...

SSD

Then its possible he got too slow and got dumped by a downdraught hence why I would carry a bit more speed than VREF especially with that headwind component and shorter stopping distance....
14th Feb 2014, 13:45
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Fans Which bit is confusing ? You would not...

Fans

Which bit is confusing ? You would not be flying the light taildragger discussed earlier in the thread in this stuff unless you want to be going backwards instead of forwards and taking off...
14th Feb 2014, 13:12
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

at 1830 winds were 210/220 49 gusting 70 KtS...

at 1830 winds were 210/220 49 gusting 70 KtS recorded 80KTS but Don is further east than Liverpool or Manchester and winds got stronger around our time this aircraft landed at 1430

Fun and sporty...
14th Feb 2014, 13:01
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Posted By Pace

Pilot battles to land plane at Manchester Airport...

Pilot battles to land plane at Manchester Airport in 45mph crosswind | Mail Online...
14th Feb 2014, 12:02
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Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

SSD Looks good but the wing was so close to...

SSD

Looks good but the wing was so close to the runway and this aircraft is high wing what the heck would i do in the citation ?:E

it would have only taken a nasty gust or downdraught for that...
14th Feb 2014, 11:13
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Yes agreed on the different speeds down the...

Yes agreed on the different speeds down the approach in the Citation 180 then back to 160 until 4 miles then back to roughly 105/110 vREF.
I must admit on that night not coming back to VREF but...
14th Feb 2014, 10:17
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

MJ My landing into Don that evening was...

MJ

My landing into Don that evening was lively in the Citation :E They were getting gusts up to 80 its, Even the handler got blown off his feet guiding us in.

just through interest what do you...
14th Feb 2014, 08:20
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Wednesday this week we had hurricane conditions...

Wednesday this week we had hurricane conditions in the Uk with winds recorded at 108 mph in parts of the Uk.
I was flying back from Germany early evening and landed at a northern airport in winds 47...
7th Feb 2014, 18:03
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Chuck Ok we have a. New term ;) first...

Chuck

Ok we have a. New term ;) first kicking straight and now thrust ! Which I presume indicates leg thrust ? Also not right can we have squeeze in regards to the rudder or maybe caress it...
7th Feb 2014, 12:51
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Posted By Pace

Again all high wing or tail dragger examples. I...

Again all high wing or tail dragger examples. I used to own a quarter share in a mooney aircraft with long wings and short undercarriage. lets see an example in one of these clips with an aircraft...
6th Feb 2014, 23:02
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Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

I would like to see the FAA recommendation to...

I would like to see the FAA recommendation to start with a crab and then change to wing down / X control ? Or even suggesting wing down over crab?

Pace
6th Feb 2014, 08:58
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Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

VP-F Yours would not be my chosen way but it...

VP-F

Yours would not be my chosen way but it obviously works for you and that is important :ok:
Also you have a high wing aircraft which suits that method better.

Pace
5th Feb 2014, 19:35
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Chuck has it right on the nail! There is no need...

Chuck has it right on the nail! There is no need to go crossed control from a crab. it should be a squeeze on the rudder to bring the aircraft straight on the runway followed by the tyres touching.
...
5th Feb 2014, 13:06
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

David I totally agree with your above comment...

David I totally agree with your above comment kicking straight is way off the mark squeezing is probably more appropriate

Pace
4th Feb 2014, 21:06
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Chuck going back to an earlier video on the...

Chuck

going back to an earlier video on the water skimming i wonder if its as dangerous as we think?
i would be surprised if a respected aerobatic team would all do something with high risk?
I...
4th Feb 2014, 14:15
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

if he lowered the nose probably not If he put in...

if he lowered the nose probably not If he put in the same control inputs as flying the right way up yes.
obviously a stall is dependant on AOA not whether you push the nose up or down but in this...
3rd Feb 2014, 17:04
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Oh well if you really want a close up of how...

Oh well if you really want a close up of how close to the runway your tyres are you could always try this new technique:ok:

Craig Hosking's Upside Down Landing and Takeoff - YouTube
3rd Feb 2014, 10:36
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

T All the examples here seem to be...

T

All the examples here seem to be taildraggers often flapless ones at that and I can well see the reasons why crossed controls side slips etc become far more important but!
In strong winds if...
2nd Feb 2014, 08:06
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Foxmoth I never said crab was the only way!...

Foxmoth

I never said crab was the only way! I said the wing down/crossed controls is used by a small percentage of pilots while the vast majority use the Crab.
(proof of the pudding?)
I also...
1st Feb 2014, 17:18
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Fox MOTH :ok: I must admit to alway using...

Fox MOTH :ok:

I must admit to alway using the crab and cannot genuinely remember a bad or overly heavy landing in the past 15 years.( genuine )
Nevertheless I will try your technique when I get...
1st Feb 2014, 10:35
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Phiggbroadband With this discussion you...

Phiggbroadband

With this discussion you would think the crab is unique to an approach to landing?
Unless you are flying on a windless day you are crabbing all the time to maintain a track from A...
1st Feb 2014, 09:23
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

3 point I agree too! you should use...

3 point

I agree too! you should use whatever method suits you and the aircraft but you should do that because it is a choice not because you are frightened of or feel incapable of dealing with...
31st Jan 2014, 23:09
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

water skimming stunt planes - YouTube Chuck...

water skimming stunt planes - YouTube

Chuck an example of water Skimming :E Also an example of why landing an aircraft is not only about stalling it on 6 feet above the runway in strong crosswinds...
31st Jan 2014, 19:05
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Chuck Maybe reckless but still amazing...

Chuck

Maybe reckless but still amazing precision flying nonetheless :ok:
And an example of why landing is not just about stalling it on

Pace Nb sure someone will put a clip up here for...
31st Jan 2014, 18:40
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Chuck Or those amazing guys who water skim...

Chuck

Or those amazing guys who water skim their tyres on the smooth surface of a lake

Pace
31st Jan 2014, 18:35
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

;) I need loads of things explaining and I get it...

;) I need loads of things explaining and I get it wrong plenty of times too :{
I am
Just being pedantic in the sense that as the aircraft comes straight maybe nearly the point you touch, secondly...
31st Jan 2014, 18:02
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

why? Explain ???? Pace

why? Explain ????

Pace
31st Jan 2014, 17:59
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

thing ;) No God is too busy for that he has...

thing ;)

No God is too busy for that he has an Army of Angels looking after us lot :ok:

i often refer to the fact that I have a very good Angel looking after me :E until a Pilot friend said he...
31st Jan 2014, 16:14
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Not Chuck but just to expand the discussion :E...

Not Chuck but just to expand the discussion :E Landing is not as closely associated to stall as imagined. Yes stall will give the slowest speed and hence the shortest landing distance but there the...
31st Jan 2014, 15:11
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

Chuck Yes I think maybe a thread on...

Chuck

Yes I think maybe a thread on different types of landing techniques and methods for dealing with winds in the flare might be useful :ok: and will probably be equally entertaining ;) but be...
31st Jan 2014, 14:22
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

3 point I know you know what you are talking...

3 point I know you know what you are talking about too :ok:sometimes its this faceless text ;)

Pace
31st Jan 2014, 13:46
Replies: 278
Views: 33,699
Posted By Pace

3 point with all due respect I do not think this...

3 point with all due respect I do not think this thread was about handling in the flare close to the ground and techniques to use near the ground to deal with gusts, up and down draughts and strong...
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