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Forum: ATC Issues

22nd Jun 2016, 22:10

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

This is getting increasingly surreal. ...

This is getting increasingly surreal.

That's not clear at all. In fact, the ATC transcript (per LiveATC) is entirely consistent with the controller having done exactly that.

If you are...

Forum: ATC Issues

22nd Jun 2016, 20:07

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

Well yes, both of those facts can be deduced from...

Well yes, both of those facts can be deduced from what happened. It's the elapsed time between the BA's pushback clearance and each of those subsequent events that I was attempting to ascertain,...

Forum: ATC Issues

22nd Jun 2016, 19:41

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

Very useful. Are you also able to verify how...

Very useful.

Are you also able to verify how much time elapsed between the BA being conditionally cleared for pushback, subject to the Ryanair having passed behind, and the RYR actually entering...

Forum: ATC Issues

21st Jun 2016, 12:47

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

Then we have to agree to differ. Based on the...

Then we have to agree to differ. Based on the transcripts (which I acknowledge may be incomplete), the BA still had a valid clearance to push, conditional only on the RYR having passed behind, at...

Forum: ATC Issues

20th Jun 2016, 22:14

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

Nobody is going to argue with that, but in this...

Nobody is going to argue with that, but in this instance it's irrelevant to the sequence of events that unfolded, which would otherwise have been:

Ground: "Speedbird 81D, stop pushback due...

Forum: ATC Issues

20th Jun 2016, 21:27

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

The recording makes it clear that the tug crew...

The recording makes it clear that the tug crew had already prudently aborted the pushback by the time the controller tried unsuccessfully to contact the BA crew, so by that stage the damage had been...

Forum: ATC Issues

20th Jun 2016, 10:37

Replies: 65

BA pilot at it again at Dublin

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Posted By DaveReidUK

Despite having listened to the recording several...

Despite having listened to the recording several times, I can't hear any words or sentiments from the BA pilot that could remotely be described as rude, which is more than can be said for some of the...

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